Mandatory Internet Censorship in Australia (4 Viewers)

[Jazuzi]

lol every1 cares

 

[SnowFox]

lol every1 cares

You really are a fail troll lol.

 

[Entrant]

Can we get back on topic?
They'll probably get voted out anyway before they can implement the filter. It takes a long long time. Especially for TPG, as they already use a transparent proxy.

 

[FlipX]

Jeebus, there are people on here who're thicker than Conroy... This thread was like a magnificent train wreck... Can't. Look. Away. lol

SnowFox, JKhoury, I think your work here's done. Take a break before you pop a vein and relax in the knowledge that most people instinctively get it.

 

[-Lemon-]

How about you open your mind and actually see what the internet is like when the filter comes into action?
Maybe it won't be so bad after all? What's wrong with not being able to access child porn or animal rape videos? It's not like you do it now? Is it?
Would your internet experience be that much worse if you didn't have 24/7 access to graphic child rape footage? If so? How so? What is it about child porn that makes the internet an 'intrinsically better place' (as the above poster so chillingly put it).

 

[tommykins]

How about you open your mind and actually see what the internet is like when the filter comes into action?
Maybe it won't be so bad after all? What's wrong with not being able to access child porn or animal rape videos? It's not like you do it now? Is it?
Would your internet experience be that much worse if you didn't have 24/7 access to graphic child rape footage? If so? How so? What is it about child porn that makes the internet an 'intrinsically better place' (as the above poster so chillingly put it).

Lollllllll.

 

[abbeyroad]

How about you open your mind and actually see what the internet is like when the filter comes into action?
Maybe it won't be so bad after all? What's wrong with not being able to access child porn or animal rape videos? It's not like you do it now? Is it?
Would your internet experience be that much worse if you didn't have 24/7 access to graphic child rape footage? If so? How so? What is it about child porn that makes the internet an 'intrinsically better place' (as the above poster so chillingly put it).

you know what, the funny thing is that ignorant idiots like yourself always go on and on and on about how the filter is supposedly about stopping child porn while in fact it is not.

Measures to improve safety of the internet for families | Senator Stephen Conroy | Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy


National Classification Code

jokes on you now.


seriously some of you sheeple are so willing to give up your freedoms you might just as well take off your pants and ask the state to fuck you up the ass.

 

[Lentern]

you know what, the funny thing is that ignorant idiots like yourself always go on and on and on about how the filter is supposedly about stopping child porn while in fact it is not.

Measures to improve safety of the internet for families | Senator Stephen Conroy | Minister for Broadband, Communications and the Digital Economy


National Classification Code

jokes on you now.


seriously some of you sheeple are so willing to give up your freedoms you might just as well take off your pants and ask the state to fuck you up the ass.

How ridiculously paranoid do you have to be to think the government is launching some 1984 style of freedom crackdown. Is it any wonder this government trusts the Australian people about as far as you can throw them, they're ready to believe climate change is naturally occurring, they asylum seeker boats are clogged up with terrorists and that a plan to filter illegal content and generally inappropriate content, the kind of which you couldn't just sell to children at any old bookshop or news-agency.

 

[abbeyroad]

How ridiculously paranoid do you have to be to think the government is launching some 1984 style of freedom crackdown. Is it any wonder this government trusts the Australian people about as far as you can throw them, they're ready to believe climate change is naturally occurring, they asylum seeker boats are clogged up with terrorists and that a plan to filter illegal content and generally inappropriate content, the kind of which you couldn't just sell to children at any old bookshop or news-agency.

Australia is the only western democracy not to have a bill of rights, I wouldn't give a crap if only you know, there's any sort of constitutional protection against the political encroachment of our civil liberties. The thing is, there isn't; there's nothing stopping the government from abusing this filter for political gains. Barring an out right revolution, the transition from democracy to despotism doesn't happen overnight; it's a gradual process. Power corrupts and if left unchecked, governments tend to gravitate towards totalitarianism. That is why every single liberal democracy in the world sans Australia had expressly limited the extent of the state's power over the individual either constitutionally or legislatively, they didn't put it there to increase the word count.

In fact, the government is not the only one who can abuse the filter. Since the definition of refused classification is so broad, any interest groups can lobby the government to censor the internet as according to their worldviews. Sites on [FONT=&quot][/FONT]homosexuality, euthanasia etc will definitely be censored, since they so "offend against the standards of morality, decency and propriety generally accepted by reasonable adults(ie Christians and Catholics)" hell euthanasia is actually illegal and will be filtered under clause c.

Take your internet filter back with you to China you freedom-hating communist asshole. What are you gonna tell me next? That it's a good idea to have unprotected sex with a prostitute you picked up on the streets and that politicians always tell the truth and have the interests of the people at heart above everything else?

 

[Lentern]

mumble mumble mumble China!mumble mumble mumbleOrwellmumble mumble North Korea

Come on you can't honestly believe your own hippy like hysteria. This great encroachment of freedoms is little more than the policing of already illegal material. Well may you say porn is not illegal well you are wrong because while a person needs to present some ID before purchasing it from a shop, they need only click an ok button and they're on porntube or youporn or whatever fourteen year olds now use.

Honestly how embarrassing to be an Australian in a day and age where the people are so paranoid and so stupid to start hearing sirens over something as nonthreatening as an internet filter or a refugee on a leaking boat. Homosexuality and euthanasia, for god sake you weaken your own cause by embarrassing it with such absurdities.

 

[FlipX]

I'm with you on most of that, Lentern, but useless policy is still useless policy.

Even if mission-creep isn't a concern, we should be opposing this on grounds that it's a waste of our taxes.

 

[Lentern]

I'm with you on most of that, Lentern, but useless policy is still useless policy.

Even if mission-creep isn't a concern, we should be opposing this on grounds that it's a waste of our taxes.

I don't support the filter I just oppose paranoid hysteria.

 

[abbeyroad]

mumble mumble mumble China!mumble mumble mumbleOrwellmumble mumble North Korea

Come on you can't honestly believe your own hippy like hysteria. This great encroachment of freedoms is little more than the policing of already illegal material. Well may you say porn is not illegal well you are wrong because while a person needs to present some ID before purchasing it from a shop, they need only click an ok button and they're on porntube or youporn or whatever fourteen year olds now use.

Honestly how embarrassing to be an Australian in a day and age where the people are so paranoid and so stupid to start hearing sirens over something as nonthreatening as an internet filter or a refugee on a leaking boat. Homosexuality and euthanasia, for god sake you weaken your own cause by embarrassing it with such absurdities.

refused classification content does not merely cover illegal material you dumb fuck. Read the National Classification Code to see what constitutes "refused classification". Conroy keeps using words like "child porn" and "bestiality" to describe the filter so idiots such as yourself who would believe anything shoved down their throat would think that the filter is about "policing illegal material" when it is not.

you may not believe in liberty but most people around here do. 10 bucks says you're Christian too, in which case you won't get any sympathy around these parts.

 

[Lentern]

yeah I'm sure John Stuart Mill and the Founding Fathers of the United States of America are a bunch of paranoid nutjobs. There's a big difference between vigilance and paranoia you moron.

You said they founded America... as if it were a good thing.

 

[abbeyroad]

I don't support the filter I just oppose paranoid hysteria.

yeah I'm sure John Stuart Mill and the Founding Fathers of the United States of America are a bunch of paranoid nutjobs. There's a big difference between vigilance and paranoia you moron.

 

[abbeyroad]

You said they founded America... as if it were a good thing.

you may not like what the bureaucrats had done to the place but you can not disparage the high ideals on which the United States of America was founded on, namely that "all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

 

[Lentern]

refused classification content does not merely cover illegal material you dumb fuck. Read the National Classification Code to see what constitutes "refused classification". Conroy keeps using words like "child porn" and "bestiality" to describe the filter so idiots such as yourself who would believe anything shoved down their throat would think that the filter is about "policing illegal material" when it is not.

you may not believe in liberty but most people around here do. 10 bucks says you're Christian too, in which case you won't get any sympathy around these parts.

Apparently you're unaware of the distinction between "little more" and "no more." As for my views I am a student of the mighty Iron, I wear it as a badge of honour. And I believe in true liberty, I take it you were one of those 400 who joined me protesting for children in detention on Christmas Island about five weeks ago? This is a trivial little pissant of a piece of legislation and the fact that people are equating it to China and North Korea where there is real oppression and censorship is both insulting and embarrassing for Australia.

 

[abbeyroad]

Apparently you're unaware of the distinction between "little more" and "no more." As for my views I am a student of the mighty Iron, I wear it as a badge of honour. And I believe in true liberty, I take it you were one of those 400 who joined me protesting for children in detention on Christmas Island about five weeks ago? This is a trivial little pissant of a piece of legislation and the fact that people are equating it to China and North Korea where there is real oppression and censorship is both insulting and embarrassing for Australia.

If you believed in true liberty like you said you do then you'd understand why we must always remain vigilant against not only the tyranny of the government but the tyranny of social opinions and how this "trivial little pissant of a piece of legislation" carries greater implications than at face value. You can't seriously believe that people will not draw comparison to the equally mandatory filter in China.

Yeah when was the last time protesting ever solved anything? Write to your local Members of Parliament, protest with your vote. Change can only come through political pressure, not fancy slogans.

 

[Lentern]

If you believed in true liberty like you said you do then you'd understand why we must always remain vigilant against not only the tyranny of the government but the tyranny of social opinions and how this "trivial little pissant of a piece of legislation" carries greater implications than at face value. You can't seriously believe that people will not draw comparison to the equally mandatory filter in China.

Yeah when was the last time protesting ever solved anything? Write to your local Members of Parliament, protest with your vote. Change can only come through political pressure, not fancy slogans.

Equally mandatory? Is that a joke? Don't forget its being introduced by equally Mandarin speaking politicians. I don't believe in invoking liberty as an oratorical device to protect my own self interests is what I mean by believing in true liberty.



Regarding protesting I have written to bonehead Laurrie thankyou, I've also written to some MP's that I don't think are boneheads imploring them to kick up a stink if they can, am I to assume then that you have written to your local mp? That you are one of the faces I see volunteering at house of welcome each week?

 

[SnowFox]

Equally mandatory? Is that a joke? Don't forget its being introduced by equally Mandarin speaking politicians. I don't believe in invoking liberty as an oratorical device to protect my own self interests is what I mean by believing in true liberty.



Regarding protesting I have written to bonehead Laurrie thankyou, I've also written to some MP's that I don't think are boneheads imploring them to kick up a stink if they can, am I to assume then that you have written to your local mp? That you are one of the faces I see volunteering at house of welcome each week?

I wrote to all the Attorney Generals about the game classification debate.


So many mixed or skewed answer i gave up on political figures giving a yes/no answer.