Becoming first in a course. (2 Viewers)

[NewiJapper]

To become first in a course do you just have to get the best mark in the exam or is your internal assesment rank/marks applied aswell...?

 

[irvine]

You'd have to be ranked first internally and beat the rest of the state in the external exam, therefore giving you the highest HSC mark.

 

[jet]

No, you just have to come first in the exam. If there is more than one person first, then they include internal marks

 

[dp624]

nah if you're ranked 50th internally and get 100% raw in external then you probably won't come first in state.

 

[Mu5hi]

nah if you're ranked 50th internally and get 100% raw in external then you probably won't come first in state.

what if your the only one with 100% raw?

 

[jet]

nah if you're ranked 50th internally and get 100% raw in external then you probably won't come first in state.

Chances are that wouldn't happen though, I don't think.

 

[annabackwards]

No, you just have to come first in the exam. If there is more than one person first, then they include internal marks

Yeha.

 

[NewiJapper]

awesome. Thanks guys. Hopefully i'll have a shot at something next year haha

 

[gella]

(hopefully not english)

 

[Shadowdude]

nah if you're ranked 50th internally and get 100% raw in external then you probably won't come first in state.

If you're ranked 50th in the school, you'll get the 50th highest exam mark - or thereabouts, and the person who gets 1st in the school will get your hard-earned 100% exam mark. I think.

 

[jet]

If you're ranked 50th in the school, you'll get the 50th highest exam mark - or thereabouts, and the person who gets 1st in the school will get your hard-earned 100% exam mark. I think.

Nah. There are a few threads in the guidance and counsel forums. Cbb explaining here.

Here's my explanation:

http://community.boredofstudies.org/110/atar-hsc-marks-guidance-counsel/221691/how-does-your-internal-ranking-affect-your-atar/3.html#post4600126

 

[Shadowdude]

I knew I already knew most of it... it's just that regurgitating them at 11pm is not exactly the best time to do it =P

 

[NewiJapper]

Well, i was actually hoping for English. I mean, i've received 100% so far for my English Adv. course and Ext course. though I'm happy just to do well! lol

 

[elmoateme]

Don't get your hopes up too much though, a girl at my school (who was accelerated) was first internally, only lost 1 mark all year (in the trials) and even had full marks in prelim ext 1, but she only ended up with 96 for her HSC mark. I mean that's an awesome mark, but it still isn't a first in course.

Good luck though, I hope you get it. It's always good to have a goal.

=)

 

[Dragonmaster262]

What I don't understand is how kids he aren't ranked first internally end up first in a course. A couple of years ago 2 kids in James Ruse topped the state in Physics and neither were ranked first internally.

 

[Shadowdude]

Yeah, how can she get only 96 if she only lost one mark and she was first in the course?

 

[wendybird]

You'd have to be ranked first internally and beat the rest of the state in the external exam, therefore giving you the highest HSC mark.

Not true. I was ranked 3rd internally, but got 100 externally. They take the HSC mark, which is an average of the internal+external.

FYI, the scaling process (in relation to the ATAR) takes the RAW marks. My HSC mark scaled up to 100 due to my raw.

 

[lyounamu]

My friend was ranked 2nd in physics and topped the state.

Another person was ranked 4th in phyiscs (in other year) and topped the state.

So...yeah...

 

[Shadowdude]

Not true. I was ranked 3rd internally, but got 100 externally. They take the HSC mark, which is an average of the internal+external.

FYI, the scaling process (in relation to the ATAR) takes the RAW marks. My HSC mark scaled up to 100 due to my raw.

It's Miss 99.95 ATAR!

* Shadowdude worships

Anyway, if you were 3rd and got scaled up to 100 due to the raw mark - shouldn't the 2nd and 1st placed people too get 100 and should therefore top the state?

This system gets more and more confusing.

 

[Dragonmaster262]

From what I've heard there are very minor differences (decimal points) which are taken into account but usually thiskind of stuff is complicated and hard to understand.