Adoption (1 Viewer)

[ay0_x]

Do you think adoption in Australia is too difficult? Or do you think the measures in place are to ensure people are serious about it and aren't looking for an "accessory child"?

edit:

eek sorry.

information:

The Adoption Act- http://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/fullhtml/inforce/act+75+2000+FIRST+0+N?

Basically, for intercountry adoption:

(1) A child who is resident or domiciled in the State is not to be adopted in a place outside Australia unless the Director-General has:

(a) determined that the consent necessary for the adoption has been given in accordance with this Act (or dispensed with), and

(b) determined that a suitable family to adopt or otherwise care for the child cannot be found in Australia, and

(c) if satisfied that the child should be adopted outside Australia, prepared a report to that effect.

(2) The report is to include information about the child’s identity, adaptability, background, social environment, family history, medical history of the child and the child’s family and any special needs of the child and is to indicate that the consents required under this Act have been obtained.



Consent:

he Court must not make an adoption order in relation to a child who is less than 18 years of age unless consent has been given:

(a) in the case of a child who has not been previously adopted by:

(i) each parent of the child, and

(ii) any person who has parental responsibility for the child, or

(b) in the case of a child who has previously been adopted—by each adoptive parent of, or person who has parental responsibility for, the child.

53 Ways in which parent or person who has parental responsibility can give consent

(cf AC Act s 27)

(1) For the purposes of this Act, a parent of, or person who has parental responsibility for, a child may consent to the adoption of the child only by:

(a) giving general consent to the adoption of the child by an adoptive parent or parents selected by the Director-General or principal officer of an accredited adoption service provider, or

(b) giving specific consent to the adoption of the child by:

(i) a specified adoptive parent who is a relative of the child, or

(ii) 2 specified adoptive persons, one of whom is a parent or relative of the child, or

(iii) a specified adoptive parent who is step parent of the child, or

(iv) a specified adoptive parent who is an authorised carer who has had care responsibility for the child for 2 years or more.

(2) Nothing in this section prevents the Director-General or principal officer from selecting an adoptive parent or parents for the purposes of subsection (1) (a) from one or more of the classes of persons referred to in subsection (1) (b).

54 When consent of parent or person who has parental responsibility not required

(cf AC Act s 26 (4A))

(1) Consent is not required under section 52 if:

(a) the requirement for the consent has been dispensed with by the Court, or

Note. See Division 3 of Part 5.

(b) the parent whose consent would otherwise be required by section 52 is a proposed adoptive parent, or

(c) the child gives sole consent to his or her adoption in accordance with subsection (2), or

(d) the child is 18 or more years of age.

(2) A child who is 12 or more years of age and of sufficient maturity to understand the effect of giving consent may give sole consent to his or her adoption by a proposed adoptive parent or parents if the child has been cared for by the proposed adoptive parent or parents for at least 2 years.

(3) However, the Court must not make an adoption order in relation to a child who is less than 18 years of age who gives sole consent to his or her adoption, unless:

(a) the Court is satisfied that at least 14 days’ notice of the application for the adoption order has been given by the Director-General or appropriate principal officer to the parent or person who has parental responsibility whose consent would otherwise be required, or

(b) the Court dispenses with the giving of notice.

(4) The regulations may prescribe the particulars to be contained in a notice under this section.

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

Maybe you should provide some information on how difficult it is to partake in adoption instead of whacking another ol' poll in NCAP.

 

[loquasagacious]

I lol'd at compulsory adoptions.

 

[will-anal]

Worst thread ever

I'm serious. You've provided us with nothing.
Oh hey guys adoption is rly hard in auz wot do u fink?
lolz i dunno
Well this poll should sort it out!

 

[David Spade]

well u see if you wanted to debate the topic it would be in your interests to research and form an opinion anyway

 

[ay0_x]

Worst thread ever

I'm serious. You've provided us with nothing.
Oh hey guys adoption is rly hard in auz wot do u fink?
lolz i dunno
Well this poll should sort it out!

I was working under the assumption that everyone atleast had a general knowledge of adoption laws.

Basically, adoption is a series of gruelling personal tests and waiting. DoCs or other state agency quiz you on every aspect of your life, over and over again, to make sure you're legit. any refusal to answer questions provided by DoCs puts your plans in jeopardy.

There's no nation-wide system, and domestic adoptions are the hardest. Consent has to be given by both biological parents of the child, disregarding the fact that they might be unfit to make such a decision. This is where most people struggle (idiots are fine to stuff their kids in foster care but OHNOEZ YOU CAN'T CALL HIM YOUR OWN)

 

[jennyfromdabloc]

Most importantly allow gay couples to adopt.

 

[HumanDichotomy]

Most importantly allow gay couples to adopt.

+1

Totally agree.

 

[HumanDichotomy]

I was working under the assumption that everyone atleast had a general knowledge of adoption laws.

Basically, adoption is a series of gruelling personal tests and waiting. DoCs or other state agency quiz you on every aspect of your life, over and over again, to make sure you're legit. any refusal to answer questions provided by DoCs puts your plans in jeopardy.

There's no nation-wide system, and domestic adoptions are the hardest. Consent has to be given by both biological parents of the child, disregarding the fact that they might be unfit to make such a decision. This is where most people struggle (idiots are fine to stuff their kids in foster care but OHNOEZ YOU CAN'T CALL HIM YOUR OWN)

Yes, adoption should be much easier, especially adoption within Australia. My parents were thinking of adopting before they had my youngest brother, it was really hard, which is obviously why they had a third kid the usual way instead. But yeah, it's expensive, and as ay0 says, it's very drawn out, I've read about couples who've waited 5 years to get a child. And with the foster care thing, my stepmum works with kids with behavioural problems, and many of them come from foster families. It's a lot more common for them to have problems at school and emotional problems because they're often not settled in a constant environment, they can get moved about from family to family, etc. And she tells me about these kids who were sent back to their families, where it's still shit, even though DoCs *obviously* removed them in the first place for a very good reason.

Think about all those couples out there that want to raise a kid, but can't have one. IVF is expensive and stressful, and it doesn't work for everyone, not to mention same-sex couples, for whom IVF can be even more difficult, especially if it's two guys. And then there's all these kids out there who the system's failing, because DoCs is under-resourced, under-staffed etc. Yet, we still don't allow kids to be adopted into families in a more transparent and less traumatic way.

One of my good friends from primary school was fostered from birth. His mother had already had kids taken away from her before, she was an alcoholic and drank all the way through being pregnant with him. He ended up being 10 weeks early, and having learning difficulties because of his mother's drinking. If he'd stayed with her, he would've got none of the early intervention he needed, or anything like that. But he was fostered by this lovely couple who have really helped him, and he's now a really nice guy, independent, etc. He was finally officially adopted by them a few years ago, even though he'd been with them his whole life. And I look and him and think about all the other kids who could be helped in the same way he's been.

That being said, I do realise the sensitivities surrounding the removal of a child from their family. But I still think adoption within Australia should be much easier than it is.

 

[David Spade]

most importantly, FUCKEN KILL ALL THE GAYS

 

[Tangent]

I think the whole adoption system should be more efficient.

I'm all for a reform of the whole adoption system, so that it is both more efficient, while it makes sure the kids go to a good home (as it is not always the case)

+ gay adoption, because there are perfectly good parents out there, regardless of sexuality. I think it is hypocritical to allow a single homosexual person to apply, but to not allow couples.

 

[Amogh]

I think it is hypocritical to allow a single homosexual person to apply, but to not allow couples.

I support your cause, but where's the hypocrisy in that?

edit:
wth at compulsory adoption
lol

 

[Anonymous-]

well i think it is hard to adobt in Australia

 

[SylviaB]

well i think it is hard to adobt in Australia

this is the single stupidest post i have ever seen on bos, ever

 

[Tangent]

I support your cause, but where's the hypocrisy in that?

That the government doesn't care if a homosexual applies to adopt a child when they are single, but they do care if they apply to adopt with their partner

Ie. They are saying that 'we dont care if you are gay, but we do care if you are gay"....makes sense

 

[pman]

The only change to the adoption laws should be that if you are heavy becouse of IVF drugs, this shoudl not stop adoption