Why are atheists on this website always attacking Christianity? (3 Viewers)

[Napstar]

Well aware of this kt.
I'm not saying she's obliged to do so.
I'm just saying that both partners in the marriage should be aiming at the other's happiness, rather than just their own.

i think this is a terribly simplistic view of marriage

but totally off topic so i wont pursue it

 

[Riet]

A wife may reward her husband with sex but that's not the same as doing it when she doesn't want to. But yeah, off topic. Let us just agree spousal rape has no place in Australia.

 

[moll.]

i think this is a terribly simplistic view of marriage

but totally off topic so i wont pursue it

lol.
Yeah, when it comes to marriage, I'm a little conservative.
Consider me Iron Lite.
Except supporting gay marriage.

 

[mazarati]

No. but because I'm a Muslim, I don't pick or choose ideas, just because they conform to Western standards.

Besides, men beating up women is extremely common. Domestic violence, whether physical, verbal or financial occurs in almost every household. we hear about it in the media all the time.

I should have phrased this better.

what I'm saying is, that because I'm a Muslim, I believe in the whole of the Quran, and if such a statement is written there, then I have to believe in it too.

However, being a person who was born and raised in a Western country, in a Western paradigm, of course I am not ok with such a thing. I have been stating the arguments for why this is acceptable in Islam.

the great thing about Islam is that it is flexible. While men may have that right, women have the right to lay conditions on their marriage contract.

So myself personally, I'd put a clause in the marriage contract along the lines of
"if the aforementioned dared to lay a finger on me with intent of violence, i demand an immediate divorce."

or something like that.

 

[David Spade]

I should have phrased this better.

what I'm saying is, that because I'm a Muslim, I believe in the whole of the Quran, and if such a statement is written there, then I have to believe in it too.

However, being a person who was born and raised in a Western country, in a Western paradigm, of course I am not ok with such a thing. I have been stating the arguments for why this is acceptable in Islam.

the great thing about Islam is that it is flexible. While men may have that right, women have the right to lay conditions on their marriage contract.

So myself personally, I'd put a clause in the marriage contract along the lines of
"if the aforementioned dared to lay a finger on me with intent of violence, i demand an immediate divorce."

or something like that.

now do you see why muslam is not compatible with modern democratic society?

 

[Riet]

yeah heaps of Islamic countries show how women can be treated fairly hey?

So what you're saying is you believe in something that is completely fucked up simply because it is in an old book?

 

[mazarati]

yeah heaps of Islamic countries show how women can be treated fairly hey?

So what you're saying is you believe in something that is completely fucked up simply because it is in an old book?

i won't get into an argument about the Islamic countries, the way men treat women there couldn't be further from Islam.

the Quran is not fucked up to me. you ever read it?

 

[David Spade]

i read it once

it made me physically ill

 

[Riet]

Do you not read what you say? You have said you don't agree with spousal rape because of your bringing up in a western society but believe in it because it's in the Quran.

 

[mazarati]

i read it once

it made me physically ill

Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. - Einstein

 

[Kwayera]

the great thing about Islam is that it is flexible. While men may have that right, women have the right to lay conditions on their marriage contract.

You think it's okay that men have the right to beat up their wives.

Get out of my country.

 

[mazarati]

You think it's okay that men have the right to beat up their wives.

Get out of my country.

lol. I was born here. My mother was born here. My grandmother was born here. You going to revoke my Australian citizenship? xD

 

[Kwayera]

i won't get into an argument about the Islamic countries, the way men treat women there couldn't be further from Islam.

the Quran is not fucked up to me. you ever read it?

You don't find the story of Muhammad and Aisha disturbing or fucked-up at all?

 

[runoutofsleep]

Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence. - Einstein

l
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[David Spade]

in my opinion i think it should be grounds for deportation

 

[Kwayera]

lol. I was born here. My mother was born here. My grandmother was born here. You going to revoke my Australian citizenship? xD

Yep, because you clearly believe that violence against women is okay because it was in a fucked-up holy book.

 

[Riet]

I always laugh when people are like "It's not Islam that is messed up re: women's rights it is those countries blah blah." Okay, then you agree that arabs are uncivilised terrorists.

 

[mazarati]

Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds. - Einstein

I'm sorry, but I loathe to degenerate into meaningless personal attacks.

 

[Riet]

Weak minds?

I BELIEVE IT BECAUSE IT IS WRITTEN IN A 1500 YEAR OLD BOOK!
DONT JUDGE ME

 

[Kwayera]

Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds. - Einstein

I'm sorry, but I loathe to degenerate into meaningless personal attacks.

Believing beating up women is okay = great spirit

Not believing beating up women is okay = weak minds


Yeah. That makes a lot of sense to me too.