Hiroshima calls for nuke-free world (3 Viewers)

[q3thefish]

knowledge is so dangerous

 

[Random_dude]

knowledge is the ultimate weapon. wisdom is the ultimate restraint.

 

[Bacilli]

no, the ultimate weapon is power, you could have little knowledge and plenty of power and be extremely distructive... just ask hitler

 

[Tangent]

no, the ultimate weapon is power, you could have little knowledge and plenty of power and be extremely distructive... just ask hitler

hilter was actually quite smart, how do you think he got where he was?

the problem was his ideals

 

[Bacilli]

yeahhhhernooyeahhherrrrro ah, i think his knowledge was restricted to hate... he had wit, and that's how he obtained power, with wit and charisma, people were attracted to him cause of it... after reading his book he comes across as a confused, angry man with intelligence in the area of his hate.

 

[Bacilli]

also people wanted to hear the things hilter was saying at the time, if you give a child chocolate when the child wants it, the child will warm to you


btw im drunk so if this comes across stupid, remind me in the morning

 

[Iron]

I find it ironic how the US tries to continually force Iran and North Korea to stop building nuclear weapons when only a mere few decades earlier US policy was to completely decimate two Japanese cities.

I know, I know people will argue 'Well it was war mate, they had to kill all those innocent people, it was a matter of national security' but the fact remains thousands and thousands died and years later people suffered. I'm not a history expert but was such a drastic attack required? Wasn't there any other means to end the war?

When i see docos showing the pilots who flew the plane(some name was given) all cocky and nationalistic and proud of what they did my blood boils. After all they killed mass amounts of innocent women and children.

Current Western foreign policy seems like double standards to me.

/rant

It was necessary imo and effective. The firebombing of Japan and Europe beforehand was far worse and much more futile.

But i'm with KT to some extent. It's maybe not 'laughable', coming from Japanese, but it's a bit rich coming from a nation which hasnt really come to terms with it's own, massive culpability, but rather carries a certain pride in their own horrors.
I mean, who bloody started the war in the pacific? Does anyone believe that they wouldntve done the same thing to any number of allied cities, given the chance?
Sore losers

 

[q3thefish]

It was necessary imo and effective. The firebombing of Japan and Europe beforehand was far worse and much more futile.

But i'm with KT to some extent. It's maybe not 'laughable', coming from Japanese, but it's a bit rich coming from a nation which hasnt really come to terms with it's own, massive culpability, but rather carries a certain pride in their own horrors.
I mean, who bloody started the war in the pacific? Does anyone believe that they wouldntve done the same thing to any number of allied cities, given the chance?
Sore losers

Lol man. Every post u make forces me to agree with u - explain plz

 

[Iron]

i have that effect on young people. But I am honoured by your concurrence
^_^

 

[Iron]

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[Tangent]

I'm not a history expert but was such a drastic attack required? Wasn't there any other means to end the war?
/rant

The war was already over. Although there were still Japanese soldiers fighting, Japan as a country was already defeated. America wouldn't accept Japans surrender conditions, instead they wanted an unconditional surrender. The American's were not accepting Japan's conditions because it gave them an excuse to drop the bombs, because technically they were still at war with each other

 

[Sprangler]

I find it ironic how the US tries to continually force Iran and North Korea to stop building nuclear weapons when only a mere few decades earlier US policy was to completely decimate two Japanese cities.

I know, I know people will argue 'Well it was war mate, they had to kill all those innocent people, it was a matter of national security' but the fact remains thousands and thousands died and years later people suffered. I'm not a history expert but was such a drastic attack required? Wasn't there any other means to end the war?

When i see docos showing the pilots who flew the plane(some name was given) all cocky and nationalistic and proud of what they did my blood boils. After all they killed mass amounts of innocent women and children.

Current Western foreign policy seems like double standards to me.

/rant

1. NK is completely insane
2. Muslims are insane, and muslims. Insane muslims with nukes? Fuck no.

 

[Rockyroad]

Yea I pretty much agree with Tangent.
It's obvious Tangent isn't a troll. No?

And can you please further explain this:
Australian kids aren't terrorist nips, are they.

I'm so confused.

I also think, like Tangent, that the atomic bombings were unjustified. America refused to allow Japan to keep the emperor, then after bombing them they let them keep him anyway. How does this make sense?

 

[Tully B.]

It was necessary imo and effective. The firebombing of Japan and Europe beforehand was far worse and much more futile.

But i'm with KT to some extent. It's maybe not 'laughable', coming from Japanese, but it's a bit rich coming from a nation which hasnt really come to terms with it's own, massive culpability, but rather carries a certain pride in their own horrors.
I mean, who bloody started the war in the pacific? Does anyone believe that they wouldntve done the same thing to any number of allied cities, given the chance?
Sore losers

I can't believe you, of all people, would take this kind of stance. You just don't seem like a ends-justifies-the-means sort of fella.

 

[Iron]

It was unfortunate, but the alternatives would likely have been more costly in human life

 

[ectobiologist]

australian childrens grandfathers didnt commit genocide

No, not unless you consider Aborigines as people.

 

[Rockyroad]

It was unfortunate, but the alternatives would likely have been more costly in human life

even if that is true
that's like saying:
oh hey it's ok that I chopped my innocent sister's foot off because - I was planning to chop her whole leg off.

the logic sucks

 

[Iron]

Innocent?

and what?

 

[Tully B.]

It was unfortunate, but the alternatives would likely have been more costly in human life

Nevertheless... that you hold this position truly shocks me. I'm not being critical or anything, it's just weird.

 

[Rockyroad]

woops. it's fixed now.
please reread