Assuming you had the subs and 100 + combat fighters any invasion force would take a severe mauling before they landed and even with our small army you could prepare a nasty reception for them when they landed. Opposed maritime landings are not fun for the aggressor.[/quote]
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even if they did reach the country relitively unopposed, their supply lines are going to be fucking ridiculous to maintain
Regional threats? What reds under the bed? The asian menace? Goodness gracious me. Any reasonably sized army wil treat us like a speed bump, any small one we could all but repel as it is, upgrades to the army are futile unless we got another million or so willing soldiers and about four hundred billio to spend on equipment upgrades.
Haha like any country is going to land >50000 troops in Australia. Sure china has a million men but how do you suppose they would get them here lol
There's a huge difference between the size of an army (say china's) and how many they could land on Australia's northern coast.
QFT
Land yes but how many air raids on our cities do you think our government would withstand before trying to negotiate a surrender?
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you're a moron
Australia is probably better off than most countries in the event of an air raid, due to our huge size and low population density
I really can't think of any nation that's surrendered due to the bombing of its cities. You really think an Australian Government would say: "we'll let you occupy the northern half of Australia if you stop the bombing raids".
QFT
Australia would be excellent place for partisan and guerilla warfare.
QFT
so many rifles out here (in the bush lol)
In regards to this
there are over 4000 registered roo shooters in the country, they can shoot a roo in the head from 300m from a door of a ute at night with a .223, imagine what they could do to some indonesian soldiers in the bush with a .308 from >600m
best sniper brigade ever lol (100% srs)
most kids in the country know how to shoot and are fags like city kids and there are plenty of rifles out here for them to use.
Better bombs these days, plus we're a country not really equipped with shleters and the like. With a population of 21 million I don't think we'd have the stomach for too many civilians casualties.
cos we're the only country who has ever been bombed and not been prepared for it
Theres plenty of scenarios you are not taking into consideration. You want support from our allies? well you have to give some back too, and with this upgrade we can give more than just a token hand.
Also i dont know what you are using to judge a nations defence forces as effective, but i think we have one of the most effective systems in the world. Do you really think a nation could plan an attack on us without us knowing about it? and once that happens their president, their whole cabinet and key military leaders end up dead, major highways are bombed, their electric grid is ruined, all this because we have the most effective special forces in the world and this is all before they can even get any of their forces close to ours.
On the way our high tech subs hole their ships at leasure, sneaking in, sinking what they will and out again, our 100 high tech fighters take similar action, i am not sure what exactly we are getting but i am sure their will be some jsf's and maybe even some f-22's. Both of which are the most deadly and effective fighters ever built, they dont just win 1 vs 1, they are still in a dominant position 1 vs 3 and thats if the attacking force detects them and launches enough fighters in time which they wont because they also have the most high tech stealth capabilities.
With all of this going on what kind of force would actually reach australia? in what condition would the attacking nations country be in? dont forget with all this sabotage going on everyone else will be placing embargoes and political sanctions on them, it would be suicide to try and attack us. Also nukes. Assuming we can get some, we are one of two countries on earth that can actually use large warheads in a defence manner. Oh you took a small part of the northern coast of australia? meh nothing up there anyway BOOM.
Not to mention that the whole purpose of this is as a holding action until our allies get here and clean up whats left. No, our defence plans are very effective and that is a large reason why we have never been invaded.
QFT
Precisely. Which is why I think that we should take a leaf out of Russia's history book and use a similar strategy of warfare as the Ruskie's used in the Napoleonic, and the First and Second World Wars.
Namely, allow any invading army to just take control of the Australian outback, retreat to a well fortified outpost far away from the inavsion (namely Tasmania and New Zealand) and use the vast expanse of land against them through partisan and geurrilla tactics, as well as hit-and-run attacks upon their tenuous naval supply lines.
In essence, this strategy would rely upon an army of well-trained and lightly-equipped infantry, with a large percentage of the populace qualified as reservists, as well as large aerial supply fleet to supply the partisans, and a large submarine fleet and an armada of small cutters, so as to make small, stealthy and fast attacks upon naval supply lines.
Total costs would be well down upon current expenditure. The armada of small cutters could also be used in peacetime as a more effective coastgaurd, rather than sending destroyers to catch refugee dinghies.
Exactly
How hard would it be to have small groups of blokes running around the bush in utes or motorbikes with some shitty old .303s (or good guns if they could spare them) doing hit and run attacks on enemy supply lines and shit and scavenging supplies or getting the occasionaly air drop resupply
Iron, coal, natural gas and uranium are pretty important in a war, it's not out of the question.
and will become more important in the future
We could invest in Anti-Missle technology.
We are pretty secluded in the sense of missile launching and such. Perfect defence against nukes, shoot them out of the sky before they reach us.
And for the love of god, upgrade the infantry weapons. The Styer is in need of a good upgrade.
it is fairly gay and not suited to long range combat (which is what i assume most shit would be)
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Sif abandonning cities would be a bad idea. Would probably prevent more damage that stupidly trying to defend them. If you invade a country with the goal of keeping it (which any invader would, thanks to our resources), you don't destroy the existing infrastructure just cos you can. You save as much of it as possible.
When I said a fortified base away from the mainland, I meant only for the Navy, Air Force and general HQ. The Army would still be on the mainland, slugging away, just the high-ranking CO's and their staff would be evacuated.
nah man, remember stalingrad, stay there and fight it out on the streets and shit
