The notion of "Hell" (2 Viewers)

[Lentern]

Go ahead, throw your vote away

Didn't you vote for the Reverend Nile?

 

[Iron]

Certainly not. The man's a fool!

 

[simonloo]

oh sht that makes even more sense naow

 

[Lentern]

Certainly not. The man's a fool!

Do you just structure all your views in a strategic manner in hope that one day people will allways say "that iron has several dimensions to his character?"

 

[adamcg]

I Think that in a Judaeo-Christian sense there can be no "hell" as traditionaly conceptualised - fire and brimstone and such. Too my knowledge (not exatly thourough but still, enough i think), teachings are so vague that their cannot be any real or correct interpretation. as disscussed before, there is a massive discrepancey between the god of the dark ages and the God of most modern varients, so whats causes the descrepency? A change in social climate. By the same token the teachings of "hell" range from a Dante - esque stucture of arrows, swords, fire, ice and pain to vanishing into non-existance with claims that all the biblical accounts of hell being metaphorical for the displeasure of God, who is eventulay all forgiving.

So if concepts of religion and god change with the social parigderm, then so must hell. Pain is outdated, will hell soon be somthing like whatching the same family guy episode over and over again for all eternity? will those souls sent to hell in the 1400's sudenly find their layers of blood and death reformed into new age punishments? If religion is forgoton will they find themselves decomposing in their graves?

anyway, thats enough from me. i think that if god exists, hell cannot and if God doesnt then hell is superfluous anyway......

I'd like hell to be like a quiz show though, if i ever went there

 

[Cookie182]

Because God is love, see. If genuine love is there, so is God. You can serve and love God without realising it; you may even follow Christ's example of compassion and universal love without ever being told about Him. But in our context, I think that the point is that you cant help but love God if you are good and loving and true to Christian values; they go hand in hand!
God is love!

I accept that actually, because even if beyond it God wasn't to "proven" to exist, that is irrelevant to the fact that it is a beautiful belief to hold about humanity

my question though Iron is, could you enter the Kingdom of Heaven without knowledge explicitly of Christ and his life?

 

[Iron]

Your thinking is too black and white. At the Catholic institute we have discovered exciting developments in afterlife technologies and are proud to present you with: purgatory

 

[adamcg]

Your thinking is too black and white. At the Catholic institute we have discovered exciting developments in afterlife technologies and are proud to present you with: purgatory

the catholic institute? please, purgatory was created in the book "the divine comedy" - a metaphysical jurney through hell, purgatory and heavan. some people think its a metaphore for the life of the author.

 

[roller]

My friend says 'hell is only an absence of God'. I think this makes sense.

That is a good of way of looking at it I guess.

 

[Iron]

Do you just structure all your views in a strategic manner in hope that one day people will allways say "that iron has several dimensions to his character?"

Only Lentern is arrogant enough to offer a compliment by way of an insult

 

[Silver Persian]

"Do I contradict myself?
Very well then
I contradict myself
I am large, I contain multitudes.”

~Iron

 

[Iron]

I used to be much more substantive, but goodness me SP will make fools of us all

 

[iNerd]

NOT MINE

The following is an actual question given on a University of Washington
chemistry mid-term.

The answer by one student was so 'profound' that the professor shared it
with colleagues, via the Internet, which is, of course, why we now have the
pleasure of enjoying it as well:

Bonus Question: Is Hell exothermic (gives off heat) or endothermic (absorbs
heat)?

Most of the students wrote proofs of their beliefs using Boyle's Law (gas
cools when it expands and heats when it is compressed) or some variant.

One student, however, wrote the following:
First, we need to know how the mass of Hell is changing in time. So we need
to know the rate at which souls are moving into Hell and the rate at which
they are leaving. I think that we can safely assume that once a soul gets to
Hell, it will not leave. Therefore, no souls are leaving.

As for how many souls are entering Hell, let's look at the different
religions that exist in the world today. Most of these religions state that
if you are not a member of their religion, you will go to Hell. Since there
is more than one of these religions and since people do not belong to more
than one religion, we can project that all souls go to Hell.

With birth and death rates as they are, we can expect the number of souls in
Hell to increase exponentially. Now, we look at the rate of change of the
volume in Hell because Boyle's Law states that in order for the temperature
and pressure in Hell to stay the same, the volume of Hell has to expand
proportionately as souls are added.

This gives two possibilities:

1. If Hell is expanding at a slower rate than the rate at which souls enter
Hell, then the temperature and pressure in Hell will increase until all Hell
breaks loose.

2. If Hell is expanding at a rate faster than the increase of souls in Hell,
then the temperature and pressure will drop until Hell freezes over.

So which is it?

If we accept the postulate given to me by Teresa during my Freshman year
that, 'It will be a cold day in Hell before I sleep with you,' and take into
account the fact that I slept with her last night, then number two must be
true, and thus I am sure that Hell is exothermic and has already frozen
over.

The corollary of this theory is that since Hell has frozen over, it follows
that it is not accepting any more souls and is therefore, extinct...leaving
only Heaven, thereby proving the existence of a divine being which explains
why, last night, Teresa kept shouting 'Oh my God.'

This student received the only 'A'.

 

[Lentern]

Only Lentern is arrogant enough to offer a compliment by way of an insult

Just to clarify; do you mean that I intended to compliment you but did so with an ironic insult or i meant to offend but actually ended up flattering you? Your many dimensions make it hard for me to be sure.

 

[Iron]

I refer you to Elgar. He offers my answer, but you must first be open to it
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[Lentern]

I refer you to Elgar. He offers my answer, but you must first be open to it
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One of my favourite yes prime minister scenes has to do with that song. Jim is doing an address to the nation and is choosing the intro music. The studio bloke suggests stravinski if he wants to look dynamic and fresh or Mozart to look traditional and sound. Jim says he wants a British composer. The studio man says how about Elgar and Jim agrees that Elgar really speaks for what Jim is all about. Then Bernard pipes in "you mean the enigma variations".

 

[Empyrean444]

the catholic institute? please, purgatory was created in the book "the divine comedy" - a metaphysical jurney through hell, purgatory and heavan. some people think its a metaphore for the life of the author.

It was given colour by Dante and structured by him; it was not created by him. While the life metaphor certainly is a component of the work, to suggest that the concepts regarding the nature of sin and the inferno, purgatorio and Paradiso are of little or subsidiary theological importance is false. In many ways, much of it is a religio-poltical allegory as well.

But that's beside the point. I can, in theory, grasp the reasoning behind hell; but it does really require the existence of a wrathful, and hence evil or sinful, god. And some of the so-called 'sins' that would take one there can hardly be considered evil.

 

[Silver Persian]

Yes! Even if the Christian God does exist, we should revolt against him and demand a better set of commandments.

 

[SylviaB]

Yes! Even if the Christian God does exist, we should revolt against him and demand a better set of commandments.

This.

 

[SylviaB]

hell is separation from God, but it is also a place of eternal torment and suffering.

God LOVES us tho rite? rite??