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hi, could someone plz help me out in 2 things

1. explain the meaning of "permitted clash"

2. link me the science electives im permitted to undertake with my combined degree sci/comp sci, as im unable to find it

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I guess I can help a little, I'm doing the same course :D

Some of the Science electives you can undertake I found were listed in the First Year Planer (myUNSW enrolment tools). They are (as taken from that page):

Semester One
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/BIOS1201.html">BIOS1201</a>&nbsp;Molecules, Cells and Genes
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/CHEM1011.html">CHEM1011</a>&nbsp;Fundamentals of Chem 1A
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/CHEM1031.html">CHEM1031</a>&nbsp;Higher Chemistry 1C
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/GEOS1111.html">GEOS1111</a>&nbsp;Fundamentals of Geology
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/MATH1081.html">MATH1081</a>&nbsp;Discrete Mathematics
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/HPSC1100.html">HPSC1100</a>&nbsp;Cosmos and Culture
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/HPSC1400.html">HPSC1400</a>&nbsp;Science, Technology & Society
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/PHIL1010.html">PHIL1010</a>&nbsp;Thinking About Reasoning
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/PHIL1014.html">PHIL1014</a>&nbsp;Intro to European Philosophy
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/PHYS1111.html">PHYS1111</a>&nbsp;Fundamentals of Physics
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/PHYS1121.html">PHYS1121</a>&nbsp;Physics 1A
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/PHYS1131.html">PHYS1131</a>&nbsp;Higher Physics 1A
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/PSYC1001.html">PSYC1001</a>&nbsp;Psychology 1A
or another approved course

Semester Two
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/BIOS1101.html">BIOS1101</a>&nbsp;Evolutionary & Functional Bio
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/CHEM1021.html">CHEM1021</a>&nbsp;Fundamentals of Chem 1B
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/CHEM1041.html">CHEM1041</a>&nbsp;Higher Chemistry 1D
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/GEOS1211.html">GEOS1211</a>&nbsp;Environmental Earth Science
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/MATH1081.html">MATH1081</a>&nbsp;Discrete Mathematics
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/HPSC1200.html">HPSC1200</a>&nbsp;Science Good, Bad and Bogus
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/HPSC1500.html">HPSC1500</a>&nbsp;Understanding Environment
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/PHIL1007.html">PHIL1007</a>&nbsp;Knowledge and Reality
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/PHIL1008.html">PHIL1008</a>&nbsp;Ethics and Society
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/PHYS1131.html">PHYS1131</a>&nbsp;Higher Physics 1A
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/PHYS1221.html">PHYS1221</a>&nbsp;Physics 1B
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/PHYS1231.html">PHYS1231</a>&nbsp;Higher Physics 1B
<a href ="http://www.handbook.unsw.edu.au/undergraduate/courses/2005/PSYC1011.html">PSYC1011</a>&nbsp;Psychology 1B
or another approved course

Hope that helps a little!
 

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itsme said:
hi, could someone plz help me out in 2 things

1. explain the meaning of "permitted clash"

thanks
A clash that is allowed within your timetable. Basically say course A and course B overlap an hour a week, you can choose either A or B to go to (obviously referring to the applicable hour only, and not the whole course), and there is no one to try and tell you otherwise.

Note: this normally occurs when lectures are scheduled badly and overlap, since they are lectures, permitted clashes arise, since lectures in there nature are non-compulsory to go to.

Hope that helps
 
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ace said:
A clash that is allowed within your timetable. Basically say course A and course B overlap an hour a week, you can choose either A or B to go to (obviously referring to the applicable hour only, and not the whole course), and there is no one to try and tell you otherwise.

Note: this normally occurs when lectures are scheduled badly and overlap, since they are lectures, permitted clashes arise, since lectures in there nature are non-compulsory to go to.

Hope that helps
Man I can't even let a course to enrol if it overlaps only an hour a week with another class... It is always in the pending status.. *worried*

I think permitted clash is like one class occurs in odd weeks and the other class holds for even weeks.
 

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permitted clash=clashes that r permitted......:)

actually i had a few clashes coz i got an auto timetable....but then i changed it and made a new timetable so now nothing clashes......i think permitted clash means that u are able to take one of the clashing classes at a different time so that u dont have any courses that clash......so yeh make ur own timetable and nothing will clash.....eg....my auto timetable said my psyc classes were clashing with other subjects so i changed the times of my psyc courses and now nothing clashes.....so yeh try to fix ur timetable.....

wow i said clashes/clash 10 times........must be some sort of a record......
 

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gman03 said:
Man I can't even let a course to enrol if it overlaps only an hour a week with another class... It is always in the pending status.. *worried*

I think permitted clash is like one class occurs in odd weeks and the other class holds for even weeks.
Hmm, that is quite peculiar.

Solution: RING UNSW, and talk them into FORCEFULLY enrolling you into the courses you want. Basically don't have overlapping tutorials / laboratories and you can virtually do anything. Going to UNSW also has the same effect, but depending on how close you live, it would probably be easier for you to just ring them.

The number is 93851000, that is the Operator, ask for Undergraduate Enrolment / Student Central, then pose your problem to them.

Now I know they can not deny you this service, as I have in the past, had to ring them up to correct a crappy MYUNSW scheduling problem. Just be polite.

Cheers

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On that note, you could as you say re-arrange your timetable, however my suggestion is rather to re-arranage the lectures to different places, so they don't clash, then enrol, for the sake of "enrolling" (aka getting the green light on the boxes, so to say). However when it comes down to it, ignore your enrolment and go to the lectures of your choice.

This is the other way to do it, without having to speak a word to the drones that man the Student Central. I did it for maths last year, worked like a charm.
 
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From memory, the colour's of the timetable in MYUNSW for a permitted clash are orange.

Basically;
Enrolled - Box is blue
Pending - Box is green
Clash - Box is red
Permitted Clash - Box is orange

Remember, never let MYUNSW timetable intimidate/bully you, exercise your right for choice and control(within consideration). :D

*EDITED at 11:47am Wednesday 26 Jan 05
 
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ace said:
From memory, the colour's of the timetable in MYUNSW for a permitted clash are orange.

Basically;
Enrolled - Box is green
Pending - Box is blue
Clash - Box is red
Permitted Clash - Box is orange

Remember, never let MYUNSW timetable intimidate/bully you, exercise your right for choice and control(within consideration). :D
lol dont confuse ppl.........enrolled is blue and pending is green......
 

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So is it alright to miss out on one hour of lectures a week (comp1711 in particular)?
 

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sci/comp sci...y not just do BE/BSc (Comp Eng + sumthing else)? seems like a pointless combined degree
 

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§eraphim said:
sci/comp sci...y not just do BE/BSc (Comp Eng + sumthing else)? seems like a pointless combined degree
um....why?..........
 

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joujou_84 said:
lol dont confuse ppl.........enrolled is blue and pending is green......
Opps. I guess my mind was playing tricks on me, when I posted that. Fixed.


J0n said:
So is it alright to miss out on one hour of lectures a week (comp1711 in particular)?
It is alright, no one checks that you are there, for all you want you could miss all of them (okay don't do that), but yeah, missing 1 lecture/hour a week shouldn't hurt.

To the people that will say stay for Richard, I empathize with them, sure he is a good lecturer, but these people want good timetables. It’s one or the other.
 
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Go to the other accounting lecture time for one set of the lectures
 

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Okay the definition of permitted clash is as follows:

1) You have obtained special permission to enrol into courses that appear to be clashing. Usually this enrolment is through the schools, and done manually

2) The lecture streams may 'clash' on the timetable, but there is alternative times available that you should be attending due to the clash eg. a night stream (basically what ace said above)

Generally, if the two class times clash, you will need to obtain special permission to enrol(in the case of no alternative streams), or they are assuming you will make up for it by attending an alternative lecture, hence the term 'permitted'.
 

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