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Crash Scene Desensitisation: Entertainment or Horror? (1 Viewer)

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Sick Sydney entertained by violent crash deaths.

THE tragic late-night deaths of a young mother and a truck driver in Sydney had one thing in common - both victims spent their final moments as macabre suburban entertainment.
When a young mother crashed into a tree at Burwood, in Sydney's west, on Monday night her male loved-one ran to the car, pulling at the door in a desperate attempt to try to free her while her head slumped over.

The woman, thought to be in her 30s, died instantly. Still he pulled at the door as the car started to smoke.

He was screaming for help but some of the residents just walked out of their homes and stared.

Three hours later, a truck flipped at Yagoona in Sydney's southwest.
The impact of the crash crushed the middle-aged male driver of the prime mover carrying a shipping container.

Hanging upside-down, his legs gripped in the twisted metal, the dying man screamed in pain and yelled "help, help, help" to a crowd assembling at the roadside.

But this is no final salute.

They died as mothers in pyjamas and dressing gowns watched on with dozy toddlers. As teenagers strutted around the crime scene, exhilarated, to see tragedy unfold.
Sirens and flashing blue-red lights of emergency cars or as one youth says, "the party vans" lured them to the scene.

They jostled to find a clearer view. They laughed, maybe at a private joke, and took photographs.
The bodies were still in view. Gore porn.

Crash victims too often die, not only in excruciating pain but as a public spectacle.

The final screams of a dying man, the last breath of a dying woman, in front of a thrilled audience murmuring at the horror of it all, yet sipping from a mug of hot coffee as they move closer to the action.

"He was screaming, he was yelling for help," one man said at the scene.

"We called triple-0 and tried to open the door but one look at him and you knew he was gone."

Theirs was a grim end. They died and crowds stared, shocked and open-mouthed, or wide-eyed and jovial and did little to help.

At both scenes there were good Samaritans, there was the family who saw the car beginning to catch fire and went searching for a hose. There was the neighbour who put it out with a fire extinguisher.

Most of the rubberneckers who stopped to see the carnage just watch.

"What can I do?" one woman said, who refused to give her name but loudly announced: "There's no way he's getting out alive."

"It's not like I know CPR."


Maybe not - but one could give the crash victims the dignity of dying without spectators, their children in tow, treating crime scenes as movie theatres with snacks and drinks.

Because the last thing that the dying victims saw was just that.
A disgusting piece of journalism this one, but it raises a moral point that i'm keen to hear people's opinion on.

Is this really what we can come to expect from today's society? Or is this more specific of certain areas of Sydney?

I don't consider myself a pessimist, but I fight with the tendency to think the views of the lady at the end of the article "There's no way he's getting out alive...It's not like I know CPR" are somewhat of a decent representation of the inactions that most people would take. Granted though, it was Yagoona.

Are we that desensitised that we give up on people and comment on whether they're going to survive it?

Dogshit "Source": Sick Sydney entertained by violent crash deaths | NSW/ACT | News.com.au

EDIT: April Fools, me thinks. :eek:
 
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From what I understand, she was being serious.

Most of what she writes is true.

However, that huge glass house that the media live in becomes relevant once again..
 

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I've made a deal with myself that if I ever run into a car accident and there aren't any emergency vehicles, then I'll try to help out.

Mainly because I don't want to end up sitting there and staring at the wreck in my dressing gown.

People like that are the worst.
 
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I've made a deal with myself that if I ever run into a car accident and there aren't any emergency vehicles, then I'll try to help out.

Mainly because I don't want to end up sitting there and staring at the wreck in my dressing gown.

People like that are the worst.
You had to make a deal with yourself to potentially save someone's life...?:confused:
 
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If theres no emergency services there you help out to the best of your abilities and training etc

if they are there you dont hang around to watch, why the fuck would you want to hear/see someone dying or in pain etc?
 

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I was witness to a car accident. I stood there and watched, and didn't know what to do. There was nothing to do.

I don't know what the author of that article expects people to do.

If people are seriously injured in a crash, especially with possible spinal injuries, as long as they're breathing you must not do anything, beyond words of comfort. Leave it to the experts.

Would she consider it better if people shrugged and walked away from accidents?
 
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I was witness to a car accident. I stood there and watched, and didn't know what to do. There was nothing to do.

I don't know what the author of that article expects people to do.

If people are seriously injured in a crash, especially with possible spinal injuries, as long as they're breathing you must not do anything, beyond words of comfort. Leave it to the experts.

Would she consider it better if people shrugged and walked away from accidents?
I think it was more the fact that families were coming out of their homes to watch. If you're a witness and theres nothing you feel you can do, you would get out of there, not stand there watching.
 

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Ben Netanyahu said:
you could pretty easily have opened a door or something Graney.
I wasn't the only person there.

If you're a witness and theres nothing you feel you can do, you would get out of there, not stand there watching.
Why?

I don't see what's offensive about looking at something. Looking away doesn't make it cease to exist. If the victim's dying of serious injuries, I doubt they're going to get too upset about a few people looking at them.

It's just ridiculous false notions of dignity, that don't actually mean anything or affect anyone.

There's no dignity in dying from a car smash.
 
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Im not talking about dignity

im thinking more along the lines of why the fuck would you want to stand around watching and hearing some poor cunt die. if i didnt feel obligated to help i would get as far away as i could before i felt any more sick.

maybe next time you're standing around watching you could help the poor cops and firemen out and wash the blood and brains off the road for them
 

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You might not want to, but maybe other people would find it interesting. I don't see why that's wrong, or who it's harming. It's human to be fascinated with death.
 
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Its not harming anyone, i just assumed that it was normal to not want to watch someones mangled body dying.
 

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Horror films, shock internet video's, violent video games etc...

It'd be absurd to think that the widespread interest in these things doesn't reflect a real world interest in death, and desire to witness such.
 

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Horror films, shock internet video's, violent video games etc...

It'd be absurd to think that the widespread interest in these things doesn't reflect a real world interest in death, and desire to witness such.
There's a definite detachment from reality when playing video games, watching movies, and even internet videos.

If say, a car crashed and fuel leaked causing a fire, would you change from observer to providing assistance?
 

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No, I would delight in watching people die needlessly.
 

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lol what a load of garbage, I'm going to go watch some gore now for pure entertainment just out of spite.
 

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My affections for Graney are rapidly cooling as he morphs into Zimmerman

The phrase "gore porn" is right. There's a serious and growning disconnect between reality and fantasy in our society. This kind of activity is just an indication of the extent to which relativism has eroded all that was once good and noble about us. It has seeped into the collective sub-conscience so much that we play out our lives like we're watching a television, think nothing of our neighbour and live for more and more outrageous and pornographic thrills to jolt us with some emotion.

The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
 
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Horror films, shock internet video's, violent video games etc...

It'd be absurd to think that the widespread interest in these things doesn't reflect a real world interest in death, and desire to witness such.
Yes there is obviously interest but i dont think this translates to interest when it happens in reality.

Eg lots of kids play war games like call of duty 5. i do and i love them. but i wouldnt last 2 minutes in an actual war and i think id be far more adept at it than the majority of bosers.

i like watching dexter etc but i feel bad for shooting a rabbit let alone a person.

it might just be me, but just because i like something that isnt real, ie war games, doesnt mean im going to be too comfortable with the reality of it. just like i wouldnt be comfortable with watching someone dying.
 

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Yes there is obviously interest but i dont think this translates to interest when it happens in reality.

Eg lots of kids play war games like call of duty 5. i do and i love them. but i wouldnt last 2 minutes in an actual war and i think id be far more adept at it than the majority of bosers.

i like watching dexter etc but i feel bad for shooting a rabbit let alone a person.

it might just be me, but just because i like something that isnt real, ie war games, doesnt mean im going to be too comfortable with the reality of it. just like i wouldnt be comfortable with watching someone dying.
No, I agree. I for one don't play a violent game so I can take pleasure in someone (/thing) dying - when I see violence in games it doesn't bother me, because it isn't real and I can detach myself from it. I can't watch shock videos on the internet because I know they're real, and if I was witnessing a crash, in which there was nothing I could do, yet the victim was headed for the worst, I definitely would not stay.
 

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