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hey

are engineers who study a double degree such as engineering/commerce less preferred by employers compared to engineers who just study the single degree?

ive been looking around and have found that the UOC needed for engineering in the combined degree is less than the single engineering degree. does that affect job prospects?

thanks.
 

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Dt 08 said:
hey

are engineers who study a double degree such as engineering/commerce less preferred by employers compared to engineers who just study the single degree?

ive been looking around and have found that the UOC needed for engineering in the combined degree is less than the single engineering degree. does that affect job prospects?

thanks.
uh, where did u get that from?
 
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it has its pros and cons

engineering HR people get worried about double degree kids because the number of potiential of headhunters double
Could you expand on that a bit?

I wouldn't have really imagined it would make a difference whether you do Eng as a single degree or with something else- don't people who do two do the same as a person who does just the one Eng degree, only a second degree as well? Why would that decrease their chances of employment against a person who does just the one?
 

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Is that true that to get to senior positions an engineer with a commerce degree would be much preferred than a normal engineer?? - I've heard this from other engineers who work in councils.. Plz advice me on this... Thanks....
 

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On the plus side, a combined degree provides a break from engineering subjects which are often boring and tedious after 13 weeks.
 

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Hmmm such a hard decision. Good thing i've got a year to decide ^^

Would an engineering/advanced science double degree be better than the engineering/commerce double degree especially if i was to major in physics/chem for the advanced science degree?

I'm thinking of a double degree in case i DO change my mind about engineering you see.
 

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well im doing a B E(civil)/B science(sex education and fornication) and im loving it.
 
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Say you did B E(civil)/B Business/commerce(Accounting)

When you finish your degree, the HR managers know that your going to take offers continiously from engineering and accounting even AFTER you started working as an engineer

There have been many cases where an engineer quited and went for a job in the finance sector

Your just doing subjects that dont relate to your field
Ah I see, so basically it's an experience thing? A person with two degrees is likely to stray from Engineering for certain periods of time and therefore be less proficient than a person who has only an Engineering degree and therefore will only be working as one...? What if someone has two degrees (one engineering) and after graduation only works as an engineer- would the fact he has two degrees really make a difference? Plus doesn't it ultimately depend upon the grades you obtain, as well as your relevant experience (which they'll see on your cv anyway)? I'm thinking of doing BE/BSc at UNSW; probably mechatronics and in science something medical related and these are based solely on my interests and since the science degree is only one year more I thought it would be worthwhile...
 

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Listen, combined degree for engineering, i personally believe its the biggest waste of time, i mean if your say doing civil combined with business or science etc, whats the point? its all a load of crap when they say, "oh civil with business leads you in more job opportunities", that's rubbish! civil engineers can work anywhere they want, even in the banks, it doesn't require a combined degree, i don't see why people do it, if your doing engineering as your core, and you know there a jobs everywhere for it, why waste another year doing a combined degree? id rather settle for a masters degree then that shit, combined degrees for engineering aren't even needed, maybe for those hopeless degrees that have no bloody career path, but a combined degree for engineering? you would be an idiot if you were to consider it...biggest waste of time that's all.
 

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Listen, combined degree for engineering, i personally believe its the biggest waste of time, i mean if your say doing civil combined with business or science etc, whats the point? its all a load of crap when they say, "oh civil with business leads you in more job opportunities", that's rubbish! civil engineers can work anywhere they want, even in the banks, it doesn't require a combined degree, i don't see why people do it, if your doing engineering as your core, and you know there a jobs everywhere for it, why waste another year doing a combined degree? id rather settle for a masters degree then that shit, combined degrees for engineering aren't even needed, maybe for those hopeless degrees that have no bloody career path, but a combined degree for engineering? you would be an idiot if you were to consider it...biggest waste of time that's all.
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To anyone considering doing an engineering double degree,

I am studying a Bachelor of Engineering (civil) and Bachelor of Arts!
Before you make those silly faces and roll your eyes at me, I would have you know, I think choosing to do the double has been the best decision of my life!!

Why?

Some of the reasons i will state below will have already been mention, but i will say them anyway.

1. Diverse thinking - more well rounded person
Doing a double degree = double the knowledge, double the experience.
As you know Engineering is very different from Arts.
In engineering, I have learnt skills in spatial thinking, analytical technical skill, creative problem solving, technical research and general logical minded thinking.
In Arts, i train my brain to do something completely different - critical thinking. I learnt to read lots and lots and lots of stuff and critic it like a maniac, then come up with my own thinking and get it down on paper in a logical, readable but critical manner. I learn about things from all over the world, history, art, language, culture, changing societies and all sorts of random things like that.

I feel sorry for people who do straight engineering, because engineering is so hard and changes so fast, you really need to totally immerse in it, and if you don't do a change of scenary once in a while, you become a thick-headed stuck up righteous snob, who can't think outside the engineering relm of life.
If you do engineering, or you have met wives of engineers, you will know EXACTLY what I am talking about.

2. Broaden my opportunities
Although I don't intend on doing an "Arts related profession" (whatever that means), I have noticed my skills used in my double degree are starting to come in handy.
Recently, I did some development work in a poorer nation abroad. Being about to think beyond "how can we get these people clean water quick and fast" to "how does putting a pipeline through here clash with cultural values associated with the land"
made a far more valuable person than the simple engineer who solves technical problems. Development is a touchy issue, as most development projects that get started usual fail to some extent. So being about to bridge the knowledge helps.
Similarly, in my past, I have put on a comedy stage show for engineering students. this included contacting more than 100 corporate companies for sponsorship, organising the theatre, tickets, money, props, costumes, band, technical equipment, advertising - THE LOT! successful project management doesn't come from being about to crunch numbers. A very important part of engineering (or any job for that matter) is being able to deal successfully with people. The hardest thing to master.

3. Employment advantage
Yes, doing a double, may not mean you get to specialise in a specific field of engineering. But Engineering degrees are NOT about learning everything there is to know about engineering. It is about learning HOW to think. and HOW to apply it to new situations. In civil, you don't learn to solve every beam-column case there is out there. you learn one or two. you learn METHODS.
That is what engineering is about "inventing the future" YOU come up with the solutions.
At sydney Uni, it is a more theoretical uni, as they say because "we don't teach you use technology, we teach you to change technology"
What better way to expand you skill than to do a double degree?

Furthermore, engo/com or eng/sci will achieve the same thing
the field is becoming more competitive and people are coming out with more degrees. The key word in today's society is "flexibility". Everyone wants flexible Everything! Having a broad range of skills will definitely be a heads up for an employer.


3. More fun!
If you don't know already, engineering is challenging degree. Doing a double degree is FANTASTIC in helping "pace" your studies.

4. Double the Friends! Double the Parties!
enough said.

On a final note, i would like to say, you don't know where your life may take you! Don't choose engineering, because you want to be an engineer, and you might make lots of money or you might change the world. Do it because you love it! Because you love solving problems and working on projects. You may love engineering, but you may not even end up doing it!
Why restrict yourself when you are young and have so much enthusiasm to learn???
 

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Musk said:
Well what is fundamental reason as to why you want to do a double degree? If you say its to ensure your uai is used well i can ensure you your gonna drop out very quick
Nope lol, it's because i'm interested in science and commerce right now so i'm not sure if i'll be able to decide. I also though having an extra degree will differentiate you for the better but i'm not so sure that's true now.

Miss Winey said:
To anyone considering doing an engineering double degree,

I am studying a Bachelor of Engineering (civil) and Bachelor of Arts!
Before you make those silly faces and roll your eyes at me, I would have you know, I think choosing to do the double has been the best decision of my life!!

Why?

Some of the reasons i will state below will have already been mention, but i will say them anyway.

1. Diverse thinking - more well rounded person
Doing a double degree = double the knowledge, double the experience.
As you know Engineering is very different from Arts.
In engineering, I have learnt skills in spatial thinking, analytical technical skill, creative problem solving, technical research and general logical minded thinking.
In Arts, i train my brain to do something completely different - critical thinking. I learnt to read lots and lots and lots of stuff and critic it like a maniac, then come up with my own thinking and get it down on paper in a logical, readable but critical manner. I learn about things from all over the world, history, art, language, culture, changing societies and all sorts of random things like that.

I feel sorry for people who do straight engineering, because engineering is so hard and changes so fast, you really need to totally immerse in it, and if you don't do a change of scenary once in a while, you become a thick-headed stuck up righteous snob, who can't think outside the engineering relm of life.
If you do engineering, or you have met wives of engineers, you will know EXACTLY what I am talking about.

2. Broaden my opportunities
Although I don't intend on doing an "Arts related profession" (whatever that means), I have noticed my skills used in my double degree are starting to come in handy.
Recently, I did some development work in a poorer nation abroad. Being about to think beyond "how can we get these people clean water quick and fast" to "how does putting a pipeline through here clash with cultural values associated with the land"
made a far more valuable person than the simple engineer who solves technical problems. Development is a touchy issue, as most development projects that get started usual fail to some extent. So being about to bridge the knowledge helps.
Similarly, in my past, I have put on a comedy stage show for engineering students. this included contacting more than 100 corporate companies for sponsorship, organising the theatre, tickets, money, props, costumes, band, technical equipment, advertising - THE LOT! successful project management doesn't come from being about to crunch numbers. A very important part of engineering (or any job for that matter) is being able to deal successfully with people. The hardest thing to master.

3. Employment advantage
Yes, doing a double, may not mean you get to specialise in a specific field of engineering. But Engineering degrees are NOT about learning everything there is to know about engineering. It is about learning HOW to think. and HOW to apply it to new situations. In civil, you don't learn to solve every beam-column case there is out there. you learn one or two. you learn METHODS.
That is what engineering is about "inventing the future" YOU come up with the solutions.
At sydney Uni, it is a more theoretical uni, as they say because "we don't teach you use technology, we teach you to change technology"
What better way to expand you skill than to do a double degree?

Furthermore, engo/com or eng/sci will achieve the same thing
the field is becoming more competitive and people are coming out with more degrees. The key word in today's society is "flexibility". Everyone wants flexible Everything! Having a broad range of skills will definitely be a heads up for an employer.


3. More fun!
If you don't know already, engineering is challenging degree. Doing a double degree is FANTASTIC in helping "pace" your studies.

4. Double the Friends! Double the Parties!
enough said.

On a final note, i would like to say, you don't know where your life may take you! Don't choose engineering, because you want to be an engineer, and you might make lots of money or you might change the world. Do it because you love it! Because you love solving problems and working on projects. You may love engineering, but you may not even end up doing it!
Why restrict yourself when you are young and have so much enthusiasm to learn???
WOW thanks heaps for the info! I'll be considering a double degree now definitely ^^
 

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Miss Winey said:
To anyone considering doing an engineering double degree,

I am studying a Bachelor of Engineering (civil) and Bachelor of Arts!
Before you make those silly faces and roll your eyes at me, I would have you know, I think choosing to do the double has been the best decision of my life!!

Why?

Some of the reasons i will state below will have already been mention, but i will say them anyway.

1. Diverse thinking - more well rounded person
Doing a double degree = double the knowledge, double the experience.
As you know Engineering is very different from Arts.
In engineering, I have learnt skills in spatial thinking, analytical technical skill, creative problem solving, technical research and general logical minded thinking.
In Arts, i train my brain to do something completely different - critical thinking. I learnt to read lots and lots and lots of stuff and critic it like a maniac, then come up with my own thinking and get it down on paper in a logical, readable but critical manner. I learn about things from all over the world, history, art, language, culture, changing societies and all sorts of random things like that.

I feel sorry for people who do straight engineering, because engineering is so hard and changes so fast, you really need to totally immerse in it, and if you don't do a change of scenary once in a while, you become a thick-headed stuck up righteous snob, who can't think outside the engineering relm of life.
If you do engineering, or you have met wives of engineers, you will know EXACTLY what I am talking about.

2. Broaden my opportunities
Although I don't intend on doing an "Arts related profession" (whatever that means), I have noticed my skills used in my double degree are starting to come in handy.
Recently, I did some development work in a poorer nation abroad. Being about to think beyond "how can we get these people clean water quick and fast" to "how does putting a pipeline through here clash with cultural values associated with the land"
made a far more valuable person than the simple engineer who solves technical problems. Development is a touchy issue, as most development projects that get started usual fail to some extent. So being about to bridge the knowledge helps.
Similarly, in my past, I have put on a comedy stage show for engineering students. this included contacting more than 100 corporate companies for sponsorship, organising the theatre, tickets, money, props, costumes, band, technical equipment, advertising - THE LOT! successful project management doesn't come from being about to crunch numbers. A very important part of engineering (or any job for that matter) is being able to deal successfully with people. The hardest thing to master.

3. Employment advantage
Yes, doing a double, may not mean you get to specialise in a specific field of engineering. But Engineering degrees are NOT about learning everything there is to know about engineering. It is about learning HOW to think. and HOW to apply it to new situations. In civil, you don't learn to solve every beam-column case there is out there. you learn one or two. you learn METHODS.
That is what engineering is about "inventing the future" YOU come up with the solutions.
At sydney Uni, it is a more theoretical uni, as they say because "we don't teach you use technology, we teach you to change technology"
What better way to expand you skill than to do a double degree?

Furthermore, engo/com or eng/sci will achieve the same thing
the field is becoming more competitive and people are coming out with more degrees. The key word in today's society is "flexibility". Everyone wants flexible Everything! Having a broad range of skills will definitely be a heads up for an employer.


3. More fun!
If you don't know already, engineering is challenging degree. Doing a double degree is FANTASTIC in helping "pace" your studies.

4. Double the Friends! Double the Parties!
enough said.

On a final note, i would like to say, you don't know where your life may take you! Don't choose engineering, because you want to be an engineer, and you might make lots of money or you might change the world. Do it because you love it! Because you love solving problems and working on projects. You may love engineering, but you may not even end up doing it!
Why restrict yourself when you are young and have so much enthusiasm to learn???
fail post. fail
 

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Musk said:
Well what is fundamental reason as to why you want to do a double degree? If you say its to ensure your uai is used well i can ensure you your gonna drop out very quick
Nope lol, it's because i'm interested in science and commerce right now so i'm not sure if i'll be able to decide. I also though having an extra degree will differentiate you for the better but i'm not so sure that's true now.

Miss Winey said:
To anyone considering doing an engineering double degree,

I am studying a Bachelor of Engineering (civil) and Bachelor of Arts!
Before you make those silly faces and roll your eyes at me, I would have you know, I think choosing to do the double has been the best decision of my life!!

Why?

Some of the reasons i will state below will have already been mention, but i will say them anyway.

1. Diverse thinking - more well rounded person
Doing a double degree = double the knowledge, double the experience.
As you know Engineering is very different from Arts.
In engineering, I have learnt skills in spatial thinking, analytical technical skill, creative problem solving, technical research and general logical minded thinking.
In Arts, i train my brain to do something completely different - critical thinking. I learnt to read lots and lots and lots of stuff and critic it like a maniac, then come up with my own thinking and get it down on paper in a logical, readable but critical manner. I learn about things from all over the world, history, art, language, culture, changing societies and all sorts of random things like that.

I feel sorry for people who do straight engineering, because engineering is so hard and changes so fast, you really need to totally immerse in it, and if you don't do a change of scenary once in a while, you become a thick-headed stuck up righteous snob, who can't think outside the engineering relm of life.
If you do engineering, or you have met wives of engineers, you will know EXACTLY what I am talking about.

2. Broaden my opportunities
Although I don't intend on doing an "Arts related profession" (whatever that means), I have noticed my skills used in my double degree are starting to come in handy.
Recently, I did some development work in a poorer nation abroad. Being about to think beyond "how can we get these people clean water quick and fast" to "how does putting a pipeline through here clash with cultural values associated with the land"
made a far more valuable person than the simple engineer who solves technical problems. Development is a touchy issue, as most development projects that get started usual fail to some extent. So being about to bridge the knowledge helps.
Similarly, in my past, I have put on a comedy stage show for engineering students. this included contacting more than 100 corporate companies for sponsorship, organising the theatre, tickets, money, props, costumes, band, technical equipment, advertising - THE LOT! successful project management doesn't come from being about to crunch numbers. A very important part of engineering (or any job for that matter) is being able to deal successfully with people. The hardest thing to master.

3. Employment advantage
Yes, doing a double, may not mean you get to specialise in a specific field of engineering. But Engineering degrees are NOT about learning everything there is to know about engineering. It is about learning HOW to think. and HOW to apply it to new situations. In civil, you don't learn to solve every beam-column case there is out there. you learn one or two. you learn METHODS.
That is what engineering is about "inventing the future" YOU come up with the solutions.
At sydney Uni, it is a more theoretical uni, as they say because "we don't teach you use technology, we teach you to change technology"
What better way to expand you skill than to do a double degree?

Furthermore, engo/com or eng/sci will achieve the same thing
the field is becoming more competitive and people are coming out with more degrees. The key word in today's society is "flexibility". Everyone wants flexible Everything! Having a broad range of skills will definitely be a heads up for an employer.


3. More fun!
If you don't know already, engineering is challenging degree. Doing a double degree is FANTASTIC in helping "pace" your studies.

4. Double the Friends! Double the Parties!
enough said.

On a final note, i would like to say, you don't know where your life may take you! Don't choose engineering, because you want to be an engineer, and you might make lots of money or you might change the world. Do it because you love it! Because you love solving problems and working on projects. You may love engineering, but you may not even end up doing it!
Why restrict yourself when you are young and have so much enthusiasm to learn???
WOW thanks heaps for the info! I'll be considering a double degree now definitely ^^
 

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