Are you sick of old textbooks? (1 Viewer)

[Ether]

Okay, firstly I have to start off saying are you guys any of you guys sick of having Excel or some Cambrdige textbook that is slow and not updated on the syllabus, especially you HSCers?

Personally, I think it's so stupid. I know alot of people fear failure or actaully fail the HSC eventually mainly because of textboooks. I hear you say "Okay, what about the lame teacher that blabbered?"

Well, they solely are paid to follow what they read and follow, guidelines. The reason why is that these textbooks don't align with the content syllabus that is constantly changing, shifting, and it beomces harder and harder to follow between the lines on the page on what you HAVE TO STUDY.

I have a few questions to ask you guys, that I ask myself, as I am in year 11 currently.

1) Would you rather some new text model that changes the way you look at work and study? That actually is easy, straight to your face, simple, organised and is to-the-day updated with syllabus content?
2) Sometimes you struggle to find what you need when the teacher doesn't exaplin it clearly enough. Do you wish there was some step-by-step thing that would guide you through education?
3) Something like htis website forum that brings together knowledge? Experience, opinions and ideas?
4) Some methods that help you remember things that most others in teh past don't?

I sometiems wish that I had some guide wiht me, I don't know personally, I stuggle with many things in school, let alone work. Friends, teachers. But I reakon there should be something that jsut hands you on a montly basis or weekly something that issues you specific content in a minimal way with hints behind it.

I also do Business Studies, and I'm sick of hearing that the Y2K bug is a threat to communicaiton technologies, or the how the GST might affect business int he future.
Future? What future? The GST was introduced 5 years ago! Come on catch up on the times! LoL

But seriously, I want to get your ideas , you guys, on what it means for people who actually struggle, and honestly like myself, there needs to be some new scheme, maybe not by the ever slow government, but something new that will help us with continual updates of things.

Give me ALL OF YOUR IDEAS, I'm happy to hear criticisms, ideas or anything new.

Thanks!

 

[Sarah168]

umm perhaps the self-help section of the bookstore where the parental "Help YOUR child through the HSC!!" books are shelved......

otherwise, your rant about out of date books is a little exaggerated. People failed their HSC due to some books being a little out of date. I say, if you were relying on some shitty ass textbook so heavily that you saw it as your Bible and a couple of facts caused you to fail your HSC, you probably deserved it anyway.

What new scheme are you alluding to exactly? A book to guide HSC students? Some massively gigantic book containing UP TO DATE summaries of EVERY subject, including a stress guide, a study guide, a guide to life, a guide to friendship, a guide to dealing with parents, a guide to dealing with pets howling, a guide to religion/faith???

Study Guides and textbooks come in in what most call...EDITIONS. They are continually updated and coming from someone who has finished their HSC (and didnt fail ), the issue isnt that huge. Study guides are rushed out all the time (the journey ones last yr were rushed out so fast, most of them looked like they havent gone through at least the hands of ONE decent editor). Obviously, this is because Pascal books wants your $$$, but if you want updates, theres an update for you.

The syllabus is there (its in point form too so if that gets you confused....ermmm). Excel Guides are good in guiding you through multiple modules, electives, choices and topics. With your Y2K thingo. If YOU know that it is outdated then what is the problem? I doubt a majority of the people reading a textbook on the GST will think that it was introduced last week . If they did, sorry, but they probably deserve to write that in their HSC exams and give the markers one good howling session.

Textbooks are not all done by the same company. Dozens of authors/ teachers/educators write multiple books in a huge range of subjects. You expect them to band together for ONE formula? Not only is it illogical and impractical but it wouldnt help students either. Why? Everyone studies differently and therefore each student selects textbooks and study guides according to what suits them.

One: i get the feeling you want to be spoon fed every single little step of the way through the HSC (not the point cos HSC is not all about rote learning, its also about taking initiative in your education to get the marks u need).

Or two: you sound like someone employed by a HSC textbook company to assess the market and come up with some ingenious product that is gonna blow Pascal Press out of their offices...

 

[Gavvvvvin]

I never heard the Y2K bug or GST mentioned once in Business Studies.

 

[MuffinMan]

Y2k is over past 2000 already so there is no need to mention it

 

[Original_Angel]

Okay, firstly I have to start off saying are you guys any of you guys sick of having Excel or some Cambrdige textbook that is slow and not updated on the syllabus, especially you HSCers?

Personally, I think it's so stupid. I know alot of people fear failure or actaully fail the HSC eventually mainly because of textboooks. I hear you say "Okay, what about the lame teacher that blabbered?"

Well, they solely are paid to follow what they read and follow, guidelines. The reason why is that these textbooks don't align with the content syllabus that is constantly changing, shifting, and it beomces harder and harder to follow between the lines on the page on what you HAVE TO STUDY.

I have a few questions to ask you guys, that I ask myself, as I am in year 11 currently.

1) Would you rather some new text model that changes the way you look at work and study? That actually is easy, straight to your face, simple, organised and is to-the-day updated with syllabus content?
2) Sometimes you struggle to find what you need when the teacher doesn't exaplin it clearly enough. Do you wish there was some step-by-step thing that would guide you through education?
3) Something like htis website forum that brings together knowledge? Experience, opinions and ideas?
4) Some methods that help you remember things that most others in teh past don't?

I sometiems wish that I had some guide wiht me, I don't know personally, I stuggle with many things in school, let alone work. Friends, teachers. But I reakon there should be something that jsut hands you on a montly basis or weekly something that issues you specific content in a minimal way with hints behind it.

I also do Business Studies, and I'm sick of hearing that the Y2K bug is a threat to communicaiton technologies, or the how the GST might affect business int he future.
Future? What future? The GST was introduced 5 years ago! Come on catch up on the times! LoL

But seriously, I want to get your ideas , you guys, on what it means for people who actually struggle, and honestly like myself, there needs to be some new scheme, maybe not by the ever slow government, but something new that will help us with continual updates of things.

Give me ALL OF YOUR IDEAS, I'm happy to hear criticisms, ideas or anything new.

Thanks!

i've got too much of a headache to read all of that
but anyway
just in relation to the title

I HATE OLD TEXT BOOKS!!!
the smell of new text books! lol
nah, just i dont know, it's more motivational to have new text books!

 

[TimeAndTide]

Y2k is over past 2000 already so there is no need to mention it

How about how online virii can affect Times Square and stocks and the economy. I remember it getting quite a hit...

 

[^CoSMic DoRiS^^]

most of the textbooks at our school are pretty outdated, specially some of the maths ones which date back to like 1950...lol. but if theres a point or topic not covered accurately enuf in the book the teacher will go over it with us and get us to write our own notes for revision on it. not hard. besides i find i learn better when i write and read out loud as opposed to just reading the book, so finding extra info, manually writing, dictating etc is fine for me. maybe not for some people, in which case study guides can be a help if you prefer visual/written aids, but generally i find old textbooks are fine. unless they are sooo outdated as to be completely useless (eg saying something like the solar system has 8 planets) you just work around it.

alternatively you can go to your library or something and do some research and compile your own set of up to date notes to study

 

[rific]

It's called self-regulated learning. By your senior years of High school you should be able to take some responsibility for your own education, how else do you do assignment research??? Even if the textbooks are outdated, most principles, theories and interpretations stay mostly the same and so they at least give you the necessary foundation knowledge. Instead of whining about 'old' examples, use a little of that thing called a brain and apply the data from those scenarios to present and potential scenarios.

 

[krabby_me]

I actually dont mind books from the 1950's. Sometimes they explain a concept to u much better than the modern way.
However i dont like books that are out-of-date with what they are supposed to be. To me Excel books are extremely out of date. The company only adds and removes sets of text when the syllabus is changed. They dont edit the text already in there.
Macquarie books are a lot like Excel but are tons better and more up to date. They explain in helpful diagrams and english. I hope for future year 12's sake that Macquarie have a much better way of updating books than Excel.

 

[mahuligan]

LOL YES, I HATE GETTIN TEXT BOOKS FROM SCHOOL AND THEY ARE DEAD SERIOUSLY OLD, LIKE FOMR 1935 OLD, THEY ARE YELLOW, THEY STINK AND HAVE FOOD STAINS!, really its sick.

ROFL! haha that was my year ten maths book! and to make matters worse i added to the yukkiness by accidently getting it wet in the rain - mould grew under the contact!

 

[Shell]

yesi i hate old text books! especially maths ones, that crumple under a feather touch!!! they're ancient.