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THE Queensland opposition has called for an immediate inquiry into the sentencing procedure behind the gang-rape case of a 10-year-old girl whose nine attackers escaped jail time.

Nine males who pleaded guilty last month to gang-raping a 10-year-old girl at the Aurukun Aboriginal community on Cape York have escaped a prison term, with the sentencing judge saying the child victim "probably agreed" to have sex with them.

Cairns-based District Court judge Sarah Bradley ordered that the six teenage juveniles not even have a conviction recorded for the 2005 offence, and that they be placed on a 12-month probation order.

Queensland Attorney-General Kerry Shine today met with Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) Leanne Clare to seek advice on whether the case could be successfully appealed under state laws, despite the deadline having passed.

He said he would make a decision on the case later today. “My expectation though would be that the advice would be to appeal,” Mr Shine told ABC Radio.

“It really is hard to imagine how these sentences are in line with community expectations.

“Under Queensland law a child under 12 cannot give consent to sexual intercourse.”

Liberal leader Mark McArdle said Mr Shine had no choice but to try for an appeal in the wake of community uproar.

He said an investigation into how the sentence was reached, especially with regards to what penalties the prosecution sought, was needed.

“How did the DPP fail to put any evidence before the court, any submissions warranting a custodial sentence and why didn't the DPP's office insist on a custodial sentence in these circumstances?” Mr McArdle told AAP.

Judge Bradley sentenced three men over the age of consent of 16 - aged 17, 18 and 26 - to six months' imprisonment, with the sentence suspended for 12 months.

Because the 28-day appeal period has expired, the sentences cannot be altered.

Judge Bradley said from her Cairns home yesterday that she considered the sentences "appropriate" in the case because they were the penalties asked for by the Crown prosecutor.

"I am not in a position to comment and I refer you to my sentencing remarks," Judge Bradley told The Australian.

Family supporters of the child victim warned that violence and murders could follow the judge's decision not to jail any of the offenders, and they questioned what message the ruling sent to the community.

It is understood Ms Clare was not told of the submissions made by her prosecutor for non-custodial sentences for the rapists.

When sentencing seven co-accused on October 24 at Aurukun, Judge Bradley noted: "The girl involved was not forced and she probably agreed to have sex with all of you."

The four juveniles are aged 14 to 16 years. They and the adults come from some of the most prominent and powerful Aboriginal families on Cape York.

Two more juveniles pleaded guilty on November 6 to raping the child, and were also given probation with no convictions recorded.

The child victim, now aged 12, does not enjoy the elevated family status of her attackers, and has had to be removed from Aurukun and put with foster parents.

News of the non-custodial sentences has added to the violent hatreds that exist in Aurukun between families and tribes and which have played a part in recent brawls involving dozens of assailants, many armed with sticks and spears.

One of the adult rapists, Raymond Frederick Woolla, 26, is on the Australian National Child Offence Register following a conviction on March 29 last year for unlawful carnal knowledge of a female child - an offence committed after he was charged with the rape of the 10-year-old girl.

Judge Bradley said Woolla was the oldest and should have known a lot better.

"You cannot have sex with anyone under 16," she said.

"However, as I said before, I am not treating anyone any differently in terms of being a ringleader, and in your case, again, I will impose a sentence of imprisonment but it will be wholly suspended so you do not go to jail today.

"But if you get into more trouble in the next year, you could end up in jail."

Woolla had been arrested on August 7 last year and the judge said the 14 days he spent in custody awaiting his sentence was to count as "imprisonment already served".

When sentencing the juveniles, Judge Bradley said: "All of you have pleaded guilty to having sex with a 10-year-old girl and (one of the juveniles) has pleaded guilty to having sex with another young girl as well.
"All of you have to understand that you cannot have sex with a girl under 16.

"If you do, you are breaking the law, and if you are found out, then you will be brought to court and could end up in jail.

"I accept that the girl involved, with respect to all of these matters, was not forced, and that she probably agreed to have sex with all of you.

"But you were taking advantage of a 10-year-old girl and she needs to be protected, and the girls generally in this community need to be protected.

"This is a very serious matter.

"It is a very shameful matter and I hope that all of you realise that you must not have sex with young girls.

"Anyone under 16 is too young.

"Some of you are still children yourselves.

"Others of you are adults but I am treating you all equally in terms of the behaviour.

"I am not treating any of you as the ringleader or anything like that."

She asked each prisoner to stand up and said she hoped they would realise it was wrong to have sex with young girls.

Judge Bradley then offered them probation and when each agreed to accept that, she said she would not record a conviction.

To one of the juveniles, she said: "You are still a child. You have pleaded guilty to one offence of rape.

"You have been in a lot of trouble in the past, though, and you still have some community service to do.

"You have not been doing that well. I am prepared to offer you probation but you have got to stick with the rules of probation."

The juvenile agreed and was then placed on 12 months' probation, with no conviction recorded.

Mr Shine said he was seeking a clearer picture of the circumstances surrounding the sentencing, including the prosecutor's submissions.

"I have been made aware of this tragic event this afternoon and have had an opportunity to read the sentencing remarks," Mr Shine said.

"I'm truly horrified by the circumstances of these offences. The circumstances of this case have not previously been brought to my attention, and nor has there been any communication with my office with regard to an appeal.

"Rape, particularly of a 10-year-old girl, by numerous offenders, is to my mind horrific in the extreme.

"It therefore appears to me that what I consider to be a particularly lenient sentence needs explanation."
LOL AUSTRALIA
 

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whne there is uncovered meat, who can blame the cat for tasting it????
 

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jb_nc said:
LOL AUSTRALIA
that's a very prima facie reaction

you shouldn't have opinions on legal matters because it leads to you engaging in fantasies and being easily manipulated by the murdochitler

leave these things to the legal experts
 

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what this case provides:

wedge politics for white people who say aboriginal people are evil
scapegoat case for arabs who say arabs are discriminated against
an excuse for aboriginal people to complain (let's face it, they always do)
an excuse for people to complain that political correctness has gone too far
excuse for dennis shanahan to suggest you vote for john howard
 

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The Australian said:
Many armed with sticks and spears.
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jb_nc said:
scapegoat case for arabs who say arabs are discriminated against
ITT: People don't know the definition of scapegoat.

Australians with an Arab ethnicity do not need scapegoats, because that's making the failed assumption that they're responsible or culpable of rape as a group, which is completely untrue. Certain crimes are over-reported and blown out of proportion, and others barely even surface. Even when the crime is equally as barbaric or horrific.

The fact of the matter is arabs are being discriminated against. Even here in BoS by the little troll puppets who perpetuate their vile lies and propoganda.

Even doing something to this effect over a long period of time creates a negative perception of a group.
 

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ok this thread isn't about your arab indignation perhaps you could go on today tonight
 

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jb_nc said:
ok this thread isn't about your arab indignation perhaps you could go on today tonight
k, but you're the one who bought up the whole topic in 1st place :confused:
 

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MaNiElla said:
k, but you're the one who bought up the whole topic in 1st place :confused:
K YEAH I DID

maybe everyone should reply to it

ill just start a thread with that post and you can go at it
 

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This Judge needs to be held accountable. She should resign.
 

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Maybe the Judge is subliminally asking for a raping as well? You know... with consent.
 

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I am really distressed by this, how the hell can she, as a woman, say that a 10year old girl 'consented,' to having sex with 9 men.
If this was in an urban town, like Sydney, then there is no way that those men would EVER get a suspended sentance, regardless of whether she consented or not. She was not at the AGE of consent and they were well over 16.

And what also comes into this is race, just like i saw on the news last night, if it were a white child in sydney there would be uproar, but because it was in a remote Aboriginal town, then it's 'expected'

What has society come to when we cant even rely on our own justice system to advocate for children/victims of rape.

This is appaling and i am totally disgusted and outraged! I hope you all are too!
 

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ame2530 said:
I am really distressed by this, how the hell can she, as a woman, say that a 10year old girl 'consented,' to having sex with 9 men.
If this was in an urban town, like Sydney, then there is no way that those men would EVER get a suspended sentance, regardless of whether she consented or not. She was not at the AGE of consent and they were well over 16.

And what also comes into this is race, just like i saw on the news last night, if it were a white child in sydney there would be uproar, but because it was in a remote Aboriginal town, then it's 'expected'

What has society come to when we cant even rely on our own justice system to advocate for children/victims of rape.

This is appaling and i am totally disgusted and outraged! I hope you all are too!

im not appaled or disgusted at all. She was uncovered and overdone meat it was inevitable that she was going to get raped. Plus, in my opinion, those men did nothing illegal. It's all the horny little abo bitches fault, fkn oil-sniffing cuntslut.
 

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On the subject of the above photos, the bottom photo doesn't show the date, and neither of them show the author- iirc it was revealed the photo's were captioned by different journalists. Also, who cares.
 

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