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[LatelineNews 2005-10-14] BEIJING - China demanded on Thursday that Japan destroy about 2 million chemical weapons abandoned by the retreating Japanese Imperial Army at the end of World War Two.

China has complained that Japan has been slow in clearing up the weapons buried or discarded by the Japanese after the war ended in 1945. China says some 2,000 Chinese have been harmed by such weapons.

"The Chinese side strongly demands the Japanese side bear its due responsibility and obligation," the official Xinhua news agency quoted Vice Foreign Minister Wu Dawei as saying.

He urged Japan "to thoroughly and completely destroy chemical weapons abandoned in China" as soon as possible.

Relations between Japan and China have frayed over a host of issues, at the core of which are disputes that stem from Japan's invasion and occupation of parts of China from 1931 to 1945.

Japan is required to dispose of chemical weapons left in China by 2007 under an international treaty, the Chemical Weapons Convention. Japanese studies have placed the number of such shells at about 700,000.

Tokyo promised in 1999 to provide funding, technology, manpower, facilities and other assets needed to scrap the weapons.

In June this year, three Chinese were taken to hospital after inhaling poison gas that leaked from abandoned shells while removing sand on a riverbank in Guangzhou, capital of the southern province of Guangdong.

Two schoolboys were injured in northeastern China in July 2004 when they uncovered and played with World War Two chemical weapons, Chinese state media said.

In August 2003, a toxic leak killed one man and injured 43 after five canisters of mustard gas were unearthed at a construction site in northeastern province of Heilongjiang. Japan has agreed to pay 300 million yen ($2.75 million) in compensation.

Ties between the two Asian giants have been strained particularly over Japanese Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi's visits to Yasukuni shrine, which China sees as a symbol of Japan's past militarism and where convicted war criminals are honoured along with Japan's war dead. Reuters
Should just dump them back into Japan, and let them have fun gassing themselves :mad:
 

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Deliberately antagonistic, designed to remind the world of the fullness of japanese atrocities.....
 

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Deliberately antagonistic, designed to remind the world of the fullness of japanese atrocities.....
Dump loads of old mustard gas weapons into your backyard and let's see how you like living with them.
 
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Consider the timing, the diplomatic situation between Japan and China, etc etc
 

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Consider the timing, the diplomatic situation between Japan and China, etc etc
PM has poisoned dregs of regional goodwill
Peter Alford, Analysis
October 18, 2005

IF he had hoped the neighbourhood would cut him any slack in response to his purposefully low-key visit to the Yasukuni war shrine, Prime Minister Junichiro Koizumi was quickly disabused.

South Korean President Roh Moo-hyun is likely to cancel his December visit to Tokyo. China has apparently cancelled a visit to Beijing by Japanese Foreign Minister Nobutaka Machimura and the Japanese can expect a drizzle of criticism from the rest of East Asia. It was predictable and disappointing.

Though he has only ever half-kept his original promise to visit Yasukuni every August 15, Koizumi has shown himself to be too fond of his own domestic reputation for "sincerity" to cut his Government free of Yasukuni's poisonous symbolism to the rest of the region. The shrine honours Japan's war dead, including some infamous war criminals.

He had the chance. In the wake of his sweeping election victory on September 11 and with only another year of his term to serve, Koizumi could have repudiated his Yasukuni promise and offered China and South Korea a new start to their tortured political relationships with their former oppressor.

Instead, he's given Roh and the Chinese leadership fresh cause to sit out the remainder of the Koizumi era.

He risks a further souring of the mood in all three countries, in the hope that the Liberal Democratic Party selects a more accommodating leader next time.

There's also a temptation for Beijing to make things more difficult in the meantime, to remind Tokyo of the potential costs of choosing another Koizumi-style nationalist -- Shinzo Abe, say. The Japanese will be watching closely over the next few days for any evidence of anti-Japanese unrest in China.

Any political benefit Koizumi gained from his Yasukuni undertaking has long since dissipated. But the costs to his country continue to mount.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5744,16948263%5E2703,00.html
Diplomatic situation? Japan's bonehead Prime Minister wouldn't have a clue what the word 'diplomacy' was if someone hit him with a highlighted dictionary :rolleyes:
 
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There are too many people in China anyway so the more that get killed or injured to the point they can't reproduce by these leftover weapons the better.
 

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There are too many people in China anyway so the more that get killed or injured to the point they can't reproduce by these leftover weapons the better.
What's too many? India has nearly the same population as China except with 1/3 of the land mass.

It would be damn funny if YOU got killed by some chemical weapons to prevent any future degradation of Australia's gene pool :D
 

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pfft

when china stops killing and toturing their people, and gets out of tibet then i might give a shit.
 

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pfft

when china stops killing and toturing their people, and gets out of tibet then i might give a shit.
pffft criminals deserve to be punished and Tibet my arse, China will get out of tibet when Australia goes back to the Aborigines, USA goes back to the American Indians, Japan goes back to the Ainu, Canada goes back to the Inuit, New Zealand goes back to the Maoris etc etc ie when hell freezes over!
 

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Should just dump them back into Japan, and let them have fun gassing themselves :mad:
Stop living in the past and get over it.
 

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"Members of unofficial spiritual or religious groups, including some Qi Gong groups and unregistered Christian groups, continued to be arbitrarily detained, tortured and ill-treated.

...

Torture and ill-treatment

Torture and ill-treatment continued to be widespread and was reported in many state institutions as well as in workplaces and homes. The victims included people detained on suspicion of criminal and political offences, bystanders at protests, migrant workers, vagrants and women suspected of prostitution. Common methods of torture included kicking, beating, electric shocks, suspension by the arms, shackling in painful positions, and sleep and food deprivation."

what a lovely civilised country.
http://web.amnesty.org/report2003/Chn-summary-eng


At least most of the countries you've mentioned still dont toture the indigenous of their countries.

have a nice read.

"Nine prisoners, mainly Buddhist monks and nuns, incarcerated in Tibet's notorious Drapchi Prison, died following protests that took place at the prison on 1 and 4 May 1998. They are reported to have died as a result of severe beatings and other forms of torture and ill-treatment meted out by prison officers, apparently as punishment for their participation in the protests. "

"Five nuns and six monks received extensions to their prison sentences following the protests. One of them was Ngawang Sangdrol, who was just 15 years old when she was arrested and imprisoned after taking part in a peaceful pro-independence demonstration in the Tibetan capital, Lhasa, in 1992. She had already received two sentence extensions and this third extension increased her prison term to 21 years."

"When the nuns refused to sing, they were taken outside and made to stand immobile in the hot summer sun holding paper under their armpits and between their knees and balancing cups of water on their heads. Those who moved or collapsed were beaten. "


some other shit here you might be interested in.
http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/engasa170092002

i love china
 

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supercharged said:
pffft criminals deserve to be punished and Tibet my arse, China will get out of tibet when Australia goes back to the Aborigines, USA goes back to the American Indians, Japan goes back to the Ainu, Canada goes back to the Inuit, New Zealand goes back to the Maoris etc etc ie when hell freezes over!
You are a idiot. You can't even defend the one nation China system effectively.

You can't compare British Colonialism to China liberating Tibet(Xizang) and unifying China.

The British came to expand and exterminate the native people of the world.

China liberated Tibet. It reunifed China and reconnect links with Tibet (Xizang). Tibetan peasants were part of the uprising agaisnt feudal and religious oppression, they were also apart of the Cultural Revolution. The Tibetans were not persecuted, this revolution was happening all over China.

If you are going to defend China's one nation policy then you should learn the facts and not compare liberation to colonialism and geniciode.
 

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"Members of unofficial spiritual or religious groups, including some Qi Gong groups and unregistered Christian groups, continued to be arbitrarily detained, tortured and ill-treated.

...

Torture and ill-treatment

Torture and ill-treatment continued to be widespread and was reported in many state institutions as well as in workplaces and homes. The victims included people detained on suspicion of criminal and political offences, bystanders at protests, migrant workers, vagrants and women suspected of prostitution. Common methods of torture included kicking, beating, electric shocks, suspension by the arms, shackling in painful positions, and sleep and food deprivation."

what a lovely civilised country.
http://web.amnesty.org/report2003/Chn-summary-eng


At least most of the countries you've mentioned still dont toture the indigenous of their countries.

have a nice read.

"Nine prisoners, mainly Buddhist monks and nuns, incarcerated in Tibet's notorious Drapchi Prison, died following protests that took place at the prison on 1 and 4 May 1998. They are reported to have died as a result of severe beatings and other forms of torture and ill-treatment meted out by prison officers, apparently as punishment for their participation in the protests. "

"Five nuns and six monks received extensions to their prison sentences following the protests. One of them was Ngawang Sangdrol, who was just 15 years old when she was arrested and imprisoned after taking part in a peaceful pro-independence demonstration in the Tibetan capital, Lhasa, in 1992. She had already received two sentence extensions and this third extension increased her prison term to 21 years."

"When the nuns refused to sing, they were taken outside and made to stand immobile in the hot summer sun holding paper under their armpits and between their knees and balancing cups of water on their heads. Those who moved or collapsed were beaten. "


some other shit here you might be interested in.
http://web.amnesty.org/library/index/engasa170092002

i love china
Hey fool, so what? People who break the law deserve to be punished. Do the crime, pay the price.

At least China still has a large indigineous Tibetian population and culture left, Aboriginies in Australia were basically culled like animals and their remains preserved as musuem exhibits. Yeah great indigienous human rights. At least the Tibetians are treated FAR better than all those natives who were close to being exterminated in Australia, USA, Canada, Japan, New Zealand etc.
 

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You are a idiot. You can't even defend the one nation China system effectively.

You can't compare British Colonialism to China liberating Tibet(Xizang) and unifying China.

The British came to expand and exterminate the native people of the world.

China liberated Tibet. It reunifed China and reconnect links with Tibet (Xizang). Tibetan peasants were part of the uprising agaisnt feudal and religious oppression, they were also apart of the Cultural Revolution. The Tibetans were not persecuted, this revolution was happening all over China.

If you are going to defend China's one nation policy then you should learn the facts and not compare liberation to colonialism and geniciode.
LOL I'm not talking about Tibet under PRC rule, Tibet was already part of China under ROC rule and the Qing Dynasty before that. The only idiots that claim Tibet was 'invaded' by the CCP are anti-China western trolls who can't get their story right. Hell during the late Qing Dynasty when China had its port cities under western control, even the British Imperialists recognised Tibet as being part of China's national boundaries.
 

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What's too many? India has nearly the same population as China except with 1/3 of the land mass.

It would be damn funny if YOU got killed by some chemical weapons to prevent any future degradation of Australia's gene pool :D
And if it was India in the same situation I would be saying the same thing. We only have limited resources, the world population needs thinning out, and one of the best places to start is China.
 

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And if it was India in the same situation I would be saying the same thing. We only have limited resources, the world population needs thinning out, and one of the best places to start is China.
Why not get the 'population thinning' ball rolling by starting with yourself? Reduce the burden to planet earth by removing yourself from it :D
 

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Hey fool, so what? People who break the law deserve to be punished. Do the crime, pay the price.

At least China still has a large indigineous Tibetian population and culture left, Aboriginies in Australia were basically culled like animals and their remains preserved as musuem exhibits. Yeah great indigienous human rights. At least the Tibetians are treated FAR better than all those natives who were close to being exterminated in Australia, USA, Canada, Japan, New Zealand etc.
pfftt.. what ya talking about. Do you see any Tibetans sitting around Shanghai, smoking hash, sniffing petrol and living off the government, with free housing? Nope.
 

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pfftt.. what ya talking about. Do you see any Tibetans sitting around Shanghai, smoking hash, sniffing petrol and living off the government, with free housing? Nope.
They might start doing that if they got Centrelink payments :p
 

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