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Hi,

Can I please have a hand on these two questions:

Consider the polynomial P(x) = x^3+x^2+cx-10. It is known that two of its zeros are equal in magnitude but opposite in sign. What is the value of c?
(a) root 10
(b) 10
(c) -10
(d) - root 10

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Let the roots be alpha, - alpha, beta

sum of roots

alpha + (- alpha) + beta = -1
So beta = -1

product of roots
-alpha^2 x beta = 10
Alpha ^2 = 10 (1)

sum two at a time
- alpha^2 = c (2)

sub 1 into 2

c = -10


for the other one I think the answer is 14

i would do 9C3/3! (Not completely certain)
 
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Let the roots be alpha, - alpha, beta

sum of roots

alpha + (- alpha) + beta = -1
So beta = -1

product of roots
-alpha^2 x beta = 10
Alpha ^2 = 10 (1)

sum two at a time
- alpha^2 = c (2)

sub 1 into 2

c = -10


for the other one I’m pretty sure the answer is 14

i would do 9C3/3!
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Let the roots be alpha, - alpha, beta

sum of roots

alpha + (- alpha) + beta = -1
So beta = -1

product of roots
-alpha^2 x beta = 10
Alpha ^2 = 10 (1)

sum two at a time
- alpha^2 = c (2)

sub 1 into 2

c = -10


for the other one I think the answer is 14

i would do 9C3/3! (Not completely certain)
Thank you
9C3/3! seems kind of sketchy.
may be better to split it into |---|.
two diagonal combinations of points.
two vertical combinations of points.
5C3 for the horizontal line.
add it up.
 

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Hi,

Can I please have a hand on these two questions:

Consider the polynomial P(x) = x^3+x^2+cx-10. It is known that two of its zeros are equal in magnitude but opposite in sign. What is the value of c?
(a) root 10
(b) 10
(c) -10
(d) - root 10

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Another cool way of doing the poly q: sub into the original equation to get: and Add these two to get: i.e. WLOG. Making c the subject:


At this point you could just use your calculator (since its M.C) but working it out:




OR even better looking at B1B2's response, she found a root from here we can simply sub this into the equation to find c,
 
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Let the roots be alpha, - alpha, beta

sum of roots

alpha + (- alpha) + beta = -1
So beta = -1

product of roots
-alpha^2 x beta = 10
Alpha ^2 = 10 (1)

sum two at a time
- alpha^2 = c (2)

sub 1 into 2

c = -10


for the other one I think the answer is 14

i would do 9C3/3! (Not completely certain)
hmm for q10.. i dunno if it is 14 just because of the fact that I have tried like 10 different combinations of these 9 dots and a max of 8 combinations is all I found. Might be wrong but I'm just trying to help (I have no real proof - might be pigeonhole principle who knows)
 
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hmm for q10.. i dunno if it is 14 just because of the fact that I have tried like 10 different combinations of these 9 dots and a max of 8 combinations is all I found. Might be wrong but I'm just trying to help (I have no real proof - might be pigeonhole principle who knows)
Do what Idkddi did. 2 combinations diagonally, 2 combinations vertically. Then horizontally 5 dots need to choose 3 so in total:
 

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Another cool way of doing the poly q: sub into the original equation to get: and Add these two to get: i.e. WLOG. Making c the subject:


At this point you could just use your calculator (since its M.C) but working it out:




OR even better looking at B1B2's response, she found a root from here we can simply sub this into the equation to find c,
Thanks:)
 

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