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are you sure it can even have a maximum value? Its a min parabola ?
If I try straightforwardly using the triangle inequality directly I get a complex modulus. This is mathematically invalid.

There has to be a corollary involved.
 

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Max occurs when equal



, we can do this because |z|>0, and |z|=0 is an irrelevant solution.

letting a = |z| just coz.

Finding the derivative

When
Since |z|>0, second derivative = a which is positive; hence max T.P. at |z|=1/2
Try again. The answer is not a rational number.
 
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I've done this without the triangle inequality. Confirming the answer is 1 + sqrt 3.

It also has a minimum value: sqrt 3 - 1
So there is something wrong with the sign in that working.
 

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I've done this without the triangle inequality. Confirming the answer is 1 + sqrt 3.

It also has a minimum value: sqrt 3 - 1
So there is something wrong with the sign in that working.
Oh yeah, damn, modulus can't be negative. So the correct solution would've read
 

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Oh yeah, damn, modulus can't be negative. So the correct solution would've read
Actually, that reasoning will not do.
If that was correct working, you would have to interpret your answer as 0 <= |z| <= .....
I haven't checked the working, but there must be an error there somewhere.
 

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Actually, that reasoning will not do.
If that was correct working, you would have to interpret your answer as 0 <= |z| <= .....
I haven't checked the working, but there must be an error there somewhere.
No, I got that. I know you can't just throw absolute value signs everywhere :p

I meant that if I worked it out properly, that would've been equivalent to the solution.
 

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Alternative solution without directly using the triangle inequality:

Let z = r cis theta and substitute.

Rearrange to write cos^2 theta in terms of r.

Then using the fact that 0 <= cos^2 theta <= 1, solve the resulting inequality to find the range for r^2 and hence for r.
 

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A downwards force is not a "lateral" force.

Edit - yes, I know what you mean now.
It's referring to the force up and down the plane, right (like in the direction of friction forces in these Q's that have friction)?
 

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Given P ( a cos theta , b sin theta ) and Q ( a cos phi , b sin phi ) lie on the ellipse x^2/a^2 + y^2/b^2 = 1

IF PQ subtends a right angle at (a,0) show that ( tan theta/2 ) X ( tan phi/2 ) = -b^2/a^2

How does b (sin theta - sin phi ) / a (cos theta - cos phi) = b/a * ( 2 sin ( (theta - phi) /2 ) ) ) * cos ( theta + phi /2 ) ) / - 2 sin ( (theta - phi) /2 ) ) sin (theta + phi /2 )
 
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