If you will be eligible to vote, who do you intend to vote for? (3 Viewers)

[Lentern]

Adoption.

Late term abortions for no other reason than not wanting a child is pretty much murder.

I bet he listens to Chris Brown and everything.

 

[na110793]

yes you didnt explicitly say they were communist, my apologies

you just said it was odd that they were anti-communist

and I stand by this....

 

[Graney]

Is it really so bad to kill a baby? It's less bad that killing a dog.

I think the issue here is that there is no definable period between when a foetus becomes human. As the post-birth abortion thread showed, there is a huge conflict (even in the academic scientific/philosophic) community of when 'life' begins.

No one argues that a zygote isn't alive, or that it isn't genetically human, people don't understand the basic meanings of terms, think about it.

 

[townie]

I think the issue here is that there is no definable period between when a foetus becomes human. As the post-birth abortion thread showed, there is a huge conflict (even in the academic scientific/philosophic) community of when 'life' begins.

Perhaps so, but the I just find the notion of aborting an almost fully formed human because somebody has decide they can't be bothered abhorrent. I actually personally don't agree with abortion at any stage of development, but I recognize a woman's right to do so in the early stages should they choose.

 

[boris]

i would suggest that you do some more research then, but i dont think you need any more poorly thought out influences on your sponge-link mind

 

[boris]

Is it really so bad to kill a baby? It's less bad that killing a dog.



No one argues that a zygote isn't alive, or that it isn't genetically human, people don't understand the basic meanings of terms, think about it.

do you agree that killing a retard should be acceptable then

 

[townie]

I bet he listens to Chris Brown and everything.

What if the baby is a woman then lentern, you can't be on both their sides, what harm does it do to a woman to carry the baby to term at such a late stage?

what she get fat? Maybe has to take some time off work (I would fully support financial assistance for that)?


How utterly selfish to deprive another of life for such petty reasons.

 

[Graney]

If there is a good reason to do so, such as financial/emotional hardship, for carers, sure.

 

[SylviaB]

do you agree that killing a retard should be acceptable then

No its shouldn't

It should be legal though to let them wander off into the wilderness and fend for themselves

clearly a far more humane solution

 

[na110793]

do you agree that killing a retard should be acceptable then

yes. damaged genetic code shouldn't be allowed to reproduce.

come at me cunts

 

[Graney]

If I had a heaps retarded child who I was going to have to provide care for the next 50 years, I would murder it.

Based on precedent, you'll only get a few years in gaol.

 

[boris]

not being able to reproduce =/= killing them lol dummy

 

[mirakon]

Wow thats cold, couldnt u just give the child to someone willing to raise it or hand it over to an orphanage?

 

[Riproot]

Different situation. But still, such complications would surely arise before 9months?

Sometimes complications arise during birth that require the pregnancy to be terminated otherwise both the baby and the mother will die.

clutching at straws

1 in a blue moon situation.

Still a situation.

And that's all you asked for.

come on
you actually think I meant it like that?

That's how you said it.

Adoption.

Late term abortions for no other reason than not wanting a child is pretty much murder.

Because we don't already have enough kids that need to be adopted.

Perhaps so, but the I just find the notion of aborting an almost fully formed human because somebody has decide they can't be bothered abhorrent. I actually personally don't agree with abortion at any stage of development, but I recognize a woman's right to do so in the early stages should they choose.

They aren't even nearly "fully formed" until they've gone through puberty.

Kill ALL the fetuses!

 

[Lentern]

What if the baby is a woman then lentern, you can't be on both their sides, what harm does it do to a woman to carry the baby to term at such a late stage?

what she get fat? Maybe has to take some time off work (I would fully support financial assistance for that)?


How utterly selfish to deprive another of life for such petty reasons.

Imagine! What horror of horrors! Selfish super bitch, choosing to pursue a career rather than have children. She's going to hell. If the event of a conflict between a woman and a vague embryonic entity with potential for human life I will back the rights of the human life over the undefined entity every time.

 

[boris]

If I had a heaps retarded child who I was going to have to provide care for the next 50 years, I would murder it.

Based on precedent, you'll only get a few years in gaol.

so many ways to go about it
have a car crash
drive your car into a flood
burn your house down
reverse over the kid in your driveway in your landcruiser

 

[Rafy]

- "To enact national anti discrimination laws which make it illegal to unfairly discriminate against people or companies on the basis of job, occupation, profession or calling."
^ I thought this already existed?

Exists for race, sex, transgenders, martial status, disability, careers, sexual preference, age, and HIV status. Given it's the sex party, that sound like it's probably designed to combat discrimination against prostitutes etc due to their profession.

"To bring about equal numbers of women in the Parliament through enabling the Federal Discrimination Act to have jurisdiction extending to political parties."

The problem is not one of discrimination, it's just for whatever reason far less females choose to participate in party politics. If say 80% of your active membership is male then that is no doubt going to be reflected in preselections. It's definitely a problem of participation, which the proposed policy will do nothing to address.

 

[Riproot]

yes. damaged genetic code shouldn't be allowed to reproduce.

come at me cunts

not being able to reproduce =/= killing them lol dummy

^^^

Wow thats cold, couldnt u just give the child to someone willing to raise it or hand it over to an orphanage?

But someone willing to raise it won't magically appear.

And I imagine living in an orphanage would be worse than being dead.

 

[boris]

What if the baby is a woman then lentern, you can't be on both their sides, what harm does it do to a woman to carry the baby to term at such a late stage?

what she get fat? Maybe has to take some time off work (I would fully support financial assistance for that)?


How utterly selfish to deprive another of life for such petty reasons.

did you read what graney said though
why does it matter that the child is 'genetically' human when in reality until age 2 or so it is less developed than a dog
and we kill dogs every day for a variety of reasons

 

[Lentern]

How did the same person neg me twice in fifteen minutes. Woman hating scum.