Who supports the Green's initiative to abolish university fees? (1 Viewer)

[Chemical Ali]

u mad?

 

[cosmo kramer]

nah mate ill fuckin skull drag you back to mexico and fill your ass with nachoes

 

[Gallant_Gufeth]

dumb = conservative would explain why blacks and mexicans voted against gay marriage in california: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/11/06/AR2008110603880.html

 

[cosmo kramer]

The only people on the planet who tolerate homos are white people really. Even though Negroes and the Mestizo are obviously dumb as rocks, I can't say I don't sympathise with their disgust for homosexuality. Homosexuality is a bit like abstract art really. It's something people pretend they don't think is ugly or disgusting to display to others how sophisticated they are even though it is obviously these things.

 

[murphyad]

http://www.adamsmith.org/images/uploads/bulletin/Education_Kealey_Briefing.pdf

A reasonable and well-argued exposition of why government contributions to universities should in fact be abolished or massively reduced.

 

[Funky Monk]

uh yeah

diversity is our greatest strength- slogan (based on nothing)

abos are poor b/c white man is oppressing them- slogan (based on nothing)

male and female brains are ABSOLUTELY THE SAME THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT BOTH GENDERS ARE SOCIALIZED DIFFERENTLY THATS WHY THEY BEHAVE DIFFERENTLY- slogan (baesd on nothing)

islam is the religion of peace- slogan (based on nothing)

whitey was living in caves while there were SPELENDEROUS PALACES IN AFRICA AND KINGS- slogans (based on nothing)

abos and tribal cultures were really peaceful and shit and were just corrupted by whitey- slogan (based on nothing)

stereotypes are based on FEAR AND THE UNKNOWN- slogan (based on nothing)

people are born as behavioral blank slates that people scribble their behavioral idiosyncracies to by mimickry and social influences- absolute lie (conflicts with all scientific research)

women have smaller incomes than men b/c MEN ARE SEXIST OPPRESSING THEM- lie (known by economists to be false for a very long time)

this is what THE LEFT ACTUALLY BELIEVES

yeah brah learning this shit is learning about the world lmao

more like learning about the world from some wackjob who doesnt understand the actual world

get fucked ya cunt im the king

nice straw men you shitfucker.

Conservatism is an easy thing to abandon once one has learned how heinous is the clusterfuck that is most of the world.

 

[cosmo kramer]

how are they straw men you nerd

a lot of liberals actually believe a lot of those retarded things or round about

and the clusterfuck that is most of the world isnt a clusterfuck or a shithole due to conservatism

diversity is a great strength thats like a mantra for retards

just search for "diversity" on google

heaps of images like this

abos are poor b/c SYSTEMATIC RACISM is keeping them from reaching socioeconomic parity how the fuck is that a strawman

its like a really common sociological view

male and female brains are ABSOLUTELY THE SAME THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THAT BOTH GENDERS ARE SOCIALIZED DIFFERENTLY THATS WHY THEY BEHAVE DIFFERENTLY- slogan (baesd on nothing)

this one is common too though generally among more extreme types and feminists

you get a lot of people who think that men and women are basically exactly the same except theyre treated differently by SOCIETY and that causes them to behave differently or something

google those swedish retards who tried to raise their child by changing its clothes from male to female every day or so so people wouldnt know what gender he/she was or the feminst who tried to raise her boy not to be millitant

whitey was living in caves while there were SPELENDEROUS PALACES IN AFRICA AND KINGS- slogans (based on nothing)

this one is more common among black people really but you do get retards everytime people talk about different civilizational accomplishments talking about these great (where?) civilizations in africa that used to exist

tacoterrorist tried this one on me

abos and tribal cultures were really peaceful and shit and were just corrupted by whitey- slogan (based on nothing)

this is just the noble savage thing

romanticizing tribal and hunter gatherer societies

google margaret mead: coming of age in samoa that's a highly influential work in this one in anthropology


stereotypes are based on FEAR AND THE UNKNOWN- slogan (rather the general attempt to discredit stereotypes as meaningless)

relentless crusade against generalizations and stereotypes by liberals this one is obvious

people are born as behavioral blank slates that people scribble their behavioral idiosyncracies to by mimickry and social influences- absolute lie (conflicts with all scientific research)

fundamental belief though most people arent explict about this one it pervades just about all western thinking but nearly everybody implictly believes it even though it is essentially wrong

women have smaller incomes than men b/c MEN ARE SEXIST OPPRESSING THEM-

very popular among feminsts ive heard heaps of them say this to me they believe that women earning less is just a product of a sexist society keeping women out of the GOOD JOBS or something

fuk off ya cunt

 

[Funky Monk]

By parroting all those daft assumptions of the 'left' you have inferred that being progressive and holding said daft assumptive views are mutually inclusive.

Straw man ya prick.

 

[cosmo kramer]

no i am stereotyping you boof

90% of fags on the left that i have encountered, and in particular, the university students we are discussing, tend to subscribe to a good percentage of those things

these sorts of things are what chem. ali and myself were specifically alluding to anyway

not everything the left thinks is dopey obviously and not everybody on the left thinks this shit

obviously

ya cunt

 

[Funky Monk]

ya tosser.

 

[cosmo kramer]

fuck u mang

 

[davidbarnes]

That article is by someone/group called 'The Free-Market Think Tank' with zero credibility. It is basically an advert for the conservative party in Britain it seems.

 

[cosmo kramer]

great reasoning david barnes

i suppose though if it had been on greenleft and its conclusions ran in the opposite direction itd be so plausible

how about trying to address actual arguments rather than who is making them

 

[davidbarnes]

America has good universities, no one denies they have some of the best in the world. However, they are extremely hard to get into and extremely expensive. We do not want that in Australia. Case closed.

 

[cosmo kramer]

they arent hard to get into at all idiot

the ivy league and the state ivies if you're white yeah

 

[Lolsmith]

I never understood why private schools were subsidized in the first place. They should not give money to private schools and at least use that to help poorer people into university.

Private schools are subsidised so that they aren't even more expensive than they are. It keeps a large chunk of children out of an already pretty full state education system so that it isn't unbearably burdened.

Also the current, you know, INTEREST FREE loan (the only one you'll ever get from anyone that isn't your family or friend) that the Commonwealth have in place is more than adequate to get these "poorer people" into university.

However, they are extremely hard to get into and extremely expensive. We do not want that in Australia. Case closed.

Does this mean you support free tertiary education

 

[murphyad]

America has good universities, no one denies they have some of the best in the world. However, they are extremely hard to get into and extremely expensive. We do not want that in Australia. Case closed.

You didn't read the article, did you.

In America, the leading independent universities operate needs blind admissions, by which students are admitted on academic merit alone. Those who then need financial support are offered it on a personalised bespoke basis as a mix of grants and loans funded out of endowment income and fee transfer income (some of the fees of rich students being used to support poor ones). The new Needs Blind Admission Agency should operate nationally on that basis, being represented by officers on every campus...

With time, however, the universities should be allowed to raise their fees — but only as quickly as they can create their own endowment and scholarship and grant and loan funds to continue to offer needs blind admissions to all...the universities should be further encouraged into growing their endowments to support needs blind admissions under a system of higher fees

How ought universities to increase their endowments?

Independent bodies are much more likely to attract private donations than dependent ones, as was illustrated by an episode from the history of the Royal National Lifeboat Institution (RNLI)...

Oh look - rich students paying full fees that they can afford, and charitably contributing to their educational institution, might actually reduce the cost for those poorer students who need assistance (and in time, their education will grant them a higher-paying job so that they can donate their money to their university's endowment fund for the next generation of needy students)!

If all universities were able to operate in this way then government could potentially be extricated from the university funding system without entrenching social disadvantage. Of course universities ought to be meritocratic institutions and nobody here is suggesting otherwise; the leftist fallacy that full fees will let the wealthy 'pay their way', and are therefore elitist/exclusionist, is ridiculous when held up to the light of good policymaking. But obviously none of this matters to you because you are a fucking ignorant imbecile.

 

[Rothbard]

I do recall being called gay when I was once working in retail for wanting to go to university.

Needless to say I don't work retail anymore.

THIS PROVES THAT ALL LIBERAL VOTERS ARE ANTI INTELLECTUAL.

 

[Rothbard]

nice straw men you shitfucker.

Conservatism is an easy thing to abandon once one has learned how heinous is the clusterfuck that is most of the world.

Yo dude that post made no sense tbqh.

"World = fucked, thus being conservative about shit is fucked due to general fuckedness of said world"

is what I grokked from it

 

[Funky Monk]

Yeah that is kinda how it comes off when read literally.

I'm never much for properly elucidating myself on these things. Oh well.