John W. Howard - Love him or Loath him? (2 Viewers)

[HumanDichotomy]

Oh Christ a Keating worshiper.

I'm not a 'Keating worshipper', I just love his insults.

 

[Lentern]

I'm not a 'Keating worshipper', I just love his insults.

Fine Keating rhetoric worshiper? Happy

 

[jennyfromdabloc]

Well he's the anti Howard really. Supremely talented and down to earth bloke whom has dedicated most of his public life to helping first Paul Keating to remain prime minister then Kim Beazley to almost become prime minister. Only now with Beazley well and truly gone has he embarked upon any real self advancement and since entering the ministry unlike Rudd, Gillard and Swan has really not had a serious charge leveled against him. In short he is beyond reproach.

Stephen Smith is quite handsome. He has a real confident, masculine look, unlike Howard who always seemed like an awkward geek.

In short;

Smith fucks bitches.

Howard fucked the country.

 

[beefnoodle]

John Howard is the Ronald Reagan of Australia, best PM ever!

 

[cabina]

John Howard - the golden years.

agreed with whoever posted above, adorable eyebrows and loved that blinky bill kinda voice. so cute <3

 

[sam04u]

arguably the worst pm in australian history he contributed nothing except commiting us to wars we had no business being involved in. if you also count his record as treasurer... he easily becomes the worst australian politican


just because I can't emphasise this enough I'll post the wiki article:
Howard Government - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Everything.... fail (except what he criticised Labor for admitting and then enacted which was a necessary evil) so thats dishonesty if anything (GST)

 

[Iron]

second best, after menzies imo

 

[Lentern]

second best, after menzies imo

Is Hawke by any chance your third?

 

[philphie]

second best, after menzies imo

now i see the reason for the Thatcher avatar.

 

[philphie]

Howard was not as bad as Menzies. For me either Keating or Whitlam, they were the greats. I wonder what Anthony Albanese would be like as PM, it's about time to have someone from the innerwest be a PM

 

[Lentern]

now i see the reason for the Thatcher avatar.

Irons praising of Thatcher is related to his love of Menzies and Howard but not for the reason you think. He isn't a staunch conservative in the Nick Minchin mold, rather he is easily intoxicated by greatness and grandeur which certainly Menzies and Thatcher oozed. I think Howard was extraordinarily helped by circumstances beyond his or his rivals control in 1996, 1998, 2001 and 2007 and that in the past twenty years there have only been three major party leaders with less ability then Howard. One of them currently leads the liberal party. None the less electoral success seems to conjure high praise no matter how undeserving.

 

[Iron]

I think Howard was clearly the most successful PM after Menzies, but he also had a good solid conservative attitude to government itself I think; most of the time government is about not doing something (contrary to what the labor party says)

Hawke is self-obsessed/evil. It takes great discipline to be blind to your vanity like Howard was

 

[Lentern]

I think Howard was clearly the most successful PM after Menzies, but he also had a good solid conservative attitude to government itself I think; most of the time government is about not doing something (contrary to what the labor party says)

Hawke is self-obsessed/evil. It takes great discipline to be blind to your vanity like Howard was

I forgot about Hawkies agnosticism of course you didn't like him. At any rate the notion that Howard believed in small government is a nonsense. Not since Whitlam have we had a prime minister who extended the arm of federal government so much as Howard.

 

[Iron]

Who mentioned small government?

 

[Lentern]

Who mentioned small government?

I did after you mentioned one of its main qualities and associated it with Howard.

 

[Iron]

u stupid APE lentern

 

[Lentern]

u stupid APE lentern

Yeah yeah.

 

[redmayne]

Yeah jeez Howard was great...

I mean there was only:

Children overboard

NT intervention (seizing Aboriginal land and sending in the army...great)

The almost sedition laws (any libertarian should hate him unconditionally for that)

Iraq

Undermining the entire republican referendum process (should have just done his job, and provided an unbiased vote)

Thanks to him university fees are higher than ever, unaffordable for many

Pretty much hated all Asians

Friend of Bush (should be enough to dislike him for anyone)

Inconsistency on GST

Reconciliation

When he was treasurer he absolutely screwed the economy. He left it in a state of low growth (<2%), low investment and low profit, huge unemployment (10.5%), interest rates (22%)and inflation (11%) and high tariffs. He killed small business as treasurer as well.

Yeah, he was a great guy...

I don't know how, looking at all that, you could possibly call him the "best ever".

YouTube - Chaser War on Everything - John W. Howard

 

[Senator111]

I am a conservative - but he didn;t set the world a light for mine!

I voted, loved him in the poll but it is more of a moderately liked him!

Reagan remains the best!

 

[whatashotbyseve]

The further we get into Rudd's reign of apathy, the more you admire a real leader in Howard. He made the tough decisions, and he got the job done. Such a travesty that Rudd will likely get a second term. Until he gets shafted by the far more astute Gillard, anyway.