Nitschke v Abbott (3 Viewers)

[katie tully]

Death will really get the ball rolling - National - smh.com.au

Wish I was there

Dr Philip Nitschke, the Greens senator Bob Brown and a former federal health minister, Professor Peter Baume, will argue the proposition against another former federal health minister, Tony Abbott, the Jesuit scholar Father Frank Brennan and the palliative care specialist Dr Maria Cigolini, in front of a sell-out crowd of 1200.

EDIT: Will tune into ABC2, definitely.

 

[Graney]

http://mpegmedia.abc.net.au/triplej/...2008_09_19.mp3

Philip Nitschke vs. some cunt Matthew Piercy.

 

[katie tully]

My ABC2 isn't showing the debate, idk wtf wtf I guess I'll put headphones on my phone and report back here

 

[Nebuchanezzar]

abbott: God!
Nitschke: [winning debate]

someone tape it. i reckon radio national will have it on their website after the broadcast.

 

[katie tully]

Video - 'We should legalise euthanasia' - Sydney Morning Herald

it will be on RN in a few days apparently

 

[Trefoil]

Tightly regulated euthanasia:
Pros:
Good for the terminally ill or suffering elderly
Good for society (frees up stored wealth, relaxes burden on welfare systems and hospitals)

Cons:
IT'S MURDER!!! ATHEIST BABY EATERS WANT TO KILL OUR OLD FOLKS TOO! WE MUST STOP THEM OR GOD WILL SEND US TO HELL FOREVER!!!!!!!

am i rite or am I missing something?

 

[katie tully]

OMG it's on

Sound is shit though

Adjudicator is a faggot, stfu and get on with it

 

[katie tully]

Omfg where has my sound gone

 

[jb_nc]

This isn't on my ABC2 communist broadcasting.

Why not?

EDIT: Oh, it's broadcast after the fact.

 

[Trefoil]

Somebody answer me.

 

[Riet]

umm the SMH one is really good quality.

 

[Riet]

"Euthenasia is never best medical best practise."
"Euthenasia undermines palative care."

 

[Riet]

"We should give people love, not death." Tony Abbot

 

[jb_nc]

"We should give people love, not death." Tony Abbot

the opposite of love is hate, tony

 

[katie tully]

lol MY SOUND NFUCKIGSOIUGHO SHIT ITSELF
so I'm waiting for it to be on RN now

it sounds as though abbott might be getting his arse handed to him

~make luv not allowing people 2 die humanely~
xoxox jesus

 

[Riet]

All the crazies are at mic 4.

 

[Iron]

Tightly regulated euthanasia:
Pros:
Good for the terminally ill or suffering elderly
Good for society (frees up stored wealth, relaxes burden on welfare systems and hospitals)

Cons:
IT'S MURDER!!! ATHEIST BABY EATERS WANT TO KILL OUR OLD FOLKS TOO! WE MUST STOP THEM OR GOD WILL SEND US TO HELL FOREVER!!!!!!!

am i rite or am I missing something?

Who are you to define the 'good' in such terms? How can you say with certainty that ending your own life is a better outcome than pain? How can you begin to justify euthanasia on the basis of lowered costs?

Pig.

 

[katie tully]

We must let the people suffer! It is the noble thing to do!

 

[katie tully]

Suffer peasants!

 

[Trefoil]

Who are you to define the 'good' in such terms?

I'm not. Notions of good already exist in both philosophy and law. Most people (except sadists and masochists) accept that unnecessary pain is bad.

How can you say with certainty that ending your own life is a better outcome than pain?

Pretty easily if I'm terminally ill or in permanent pain above a certain tolerable thershold.

How can you begin to justify euthanasia on the basis of lowered costs?

Easily if it's a secondary justification which depends on a valid primary justification (which was already provided).

Pig.

Zealot.